summaryrefslogtreecommitdiff
path: root/bd/9f07db6c4f66be5814471f2873cd06e36ce06f
blob: ea1a3646adf096308904e3214f852340fb33f03d (plain)
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
Return-Path: <lf-lists@mattcorallo.com>
Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org
	[172.17.192.35])
	by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2BEABBC
	for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
	Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:39:14 +0000 (UTC)
X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6
Received: from mail.bluematt.me (mail.bluematt.me [192.241.179.72])
	by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D73F12E
	for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
	Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:39:14 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from [172.17.0.1] (gw.vpn.bluematt.me [162.243.132.6])
	by mail.bluematt.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E9BF560E5;
	Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:39:13 +0000 (UTC)
To: Tom Harding <tomh@thinlink.com>, bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
References: <55D6AD19.10305@mattcorallo.com> <20150821053819.GA18176@muck>
	<20150821054219.GB18176@muck> <55D7662E.4090104@mattcorallo.com>
	<20150821220603.GC7450@muck> <55DB35F1.5020603@thinlink.com>
From: Matt Corallo <lf-lists@mattcorallo.com>
Message-ID: <55DB56C0.4000904@mattcorallo.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:39:12 +0000
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101
	Thunderbird/38.1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <55DB35F1.5020603@thinlink.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham
	version=3.3.1
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on
	smtp1.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Revisiting NODE_BLOOM: Proposed BIP
X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>,
	<mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/>
List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>,
	<mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:39:14 -0000

I'll just quote what I said on github:

Neither this pull nor the BIP has any stated intention of phasing out
bloom filtering support in the protocol. As much as I'd love to, I 100%
agree with @mikehearn here, that would break any ability of SPV clients
to operate on the P2P network (either as a way to double-check
centralized servers, or otherwise), and that is really not a good idea
without a replacement in place. This pull/BIP DOES suggest we phase out
REQUIRED bloom filtering support in the protocol - thereby fixing the
peer selection of SPV clients in the face of btcd with some flags/many
patched versions of Core/etc peers, providing a remedy for a potential
DoS attack, etc.

Matt

On 08/24/15 15:19, Tom Harding via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> On 8/21/2015 3:06 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 05:55:58PM +0000, Matt Corallo wrote:
>>> Anyone have the best reference for the DoS issues?
>> Well actually, we can reference the DoS attacks that Bitcoin XT nodes
>> are undergoing right now - part of the attack is repeated Bloom filter
>> requests to soak up disk IO bandwidth.
> 
> So, to summarize, someone is attacking Mike Hearn's bitcoin fork. 
> Therefore, now is the perfect time to write a BIP and author changes
> that begin the process of dropping support for the most broadly
> successful class of wallets, which Mike Hearn's SPV client library enables.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>