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OK, adding the relevant code fragment is probably the simplest and direct
option. Done.
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n <jtimon@jtimon.cc> wrote:
> Not a native english speaker myself, so I may have missed some things...
>
> Yes, sorry about the link. I guess you can point to #6230 . I can
> rebase it if needed but I would close it again because I don't want to
> have too many things from #6382 opened at the same time (is noisy and
> worse for review). My plan was to not open it independently at least
> until after #6907 (and actually after 0.12 assuming #6907 gets in by
> 0.12). But then I would maybe open a new one and reference the old one
> rather than reopening #6230 (which tends to be confusing).
> I'm not really sure what's the best answer here...but #6382 is
> certainly going to need rebase and the link will be broken again.
> Maybe one answer is to copy some text from #6230 or the commit and add
> it directly to the BIP instead of referencing to that commit (which
> will be, at least until #6907 is merged, a moving target).
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Marco Pontello <marcopon@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks for the comments! Now I fixed the typos (hope to have got them
> all,
> > English isn't my first language), clarified the chain part a bit, and
> fixed
> > the link. There probably is a better way to reference that source code
> part
> > with the genesis blocks hashs, in a way that doesn't need to be changed=
,
> > maybe...
> >
> > Now the main change would be to put in a proper BIP number! :)
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n <jtimon@jtimon.cc> w=
rote:
> >>
> >> Thank you for incorporating the feedback, specifically thank you for
> >> using the genesis block hash as the unique chain ID.
> >>
> >> I wen't through the BIP draft and left a few of comments, but I really
> >> like its simplicity and focus. Good work!
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Marco Pontello via bitcoin-dev
> >> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >> > Hi!
> >> >
> >> > To anyone that followed the discussion (from some time ago) about th=
e
> >> > proposed new URI for Blockchain references / exploration, I just
> wanted
> >> > to
> >> > point out that I have collected the feedback provided, reworked the
> >> > text,
> >> > put the BIP on GitHub and created a pull request:
> >> >
> >> >
> https://github.com/MarcoPon/bips/blob/master/bip-MarcoPon-01.mediawiki
> >> > https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/202
> >> >
> >> > The need for an URI for this come to mind again in the last days
> looking
> >> > at
> >> > Eternity Wall, which IMHO provide a use case that we will see more a=
nd
> >> > more
> >> > in the (near) future: http://eternitywall.it/
> >> > Using that service, when you want to check for the proof that a
> specific
> >> > message was written in the Blockchain, it let you choose from 5
> >> > different
> >> > explorer.
> >> > Mycelium wallet recently added the option to select one of 15 block
> >> > explorers.
> >> > And there's the crypto_bot on reddit/r/bitcoin that detect reference
> to
> >> > transaction an add a message with links to 7 different explorers.
> >> >
> >> > I think that's clearly something that's needed.
> >> >
> >> > Bye!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Marco Pontello <marcopon@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi!
> >> >> My first post here, hope I'm following the right conventions.
> >> >> I had this humble idea for a while, so I thought to go ahead and
> >> >> propose
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> BIP: XX
> >> >> Title: URI scheme for Blockchain exploration
> >> >> Author: Marco Pontello
> >> >> Status: Draft
> >> >> Type: Standards Track
> >> >> Created: 29 August 2015
> >> >>
> >> >> Abstract
> >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >> >> This BIP propose a simple URI scheme for looking up blocks,
> >> >> transactions,
> >> >> addresses on a Blockchain explorer.
> >> >>
> >> >> Motivation
> >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >> >> The purpose of this URI scheme is to enable users to handle all the
> >> >> requests for details about blocks, transactions, etc. with their
> >> >> preferred
> >> >> tool (being that a web service or a local application).
> >> >>
> >> >> Currently a Bitcoin client usually point to an arbitrary blockchain
> >> >> explorer when the user look for the details of a transaction (es.
> >> >> Bitcoin
> >> >> Wallet use BitEasy, Mycelium or Electrum use Blockchain.info, etc.)=
.
> >> >> Other times resorting to cut&paste is needed.
> >> >> The same happens with posts and messages that reference some
> particular
> >> >> txs or blocks, if they provide links at all.
> >> >>
> >> >> Specification
> >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >> >> The URI follow this simple form:
> >> >>
> >> >> blockchain: <hash/string>
> >> >>
> >> >> Examples:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> blockchain:00000000000000001003e880d500968d51157f210c632e08a652af35766001=
98
> >> >> blockchain:001949
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> blockchain:3b95a766d7a99b87188d6875c8484cb2b310b78459b7816d4dfc3f0f7e0428=
1a
> >> >>
> >> >> Rationale
> >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >> >> I thought about using some more complex scheme, or adding qualifier=
s
> to
> >> >> distinguish blocks from txs, but in the end I think that keeping it
> >> >> simple
> >> >> should be practical enough. Blockchain explorers can apply the same
> >> >> disambiguation rules they are already using to process the usual
> search
> >> >> box.
> >> >>
> >> >> From the point of view of a wallet developer (or other tool that ne=
ed
> >> >> to
> >> >> show any kind of Blockchain references), using this scheme mean tha=
t
> he
> >> >> can simply make it a blockchain: link and be done with it, without
> >> >> having
> >> >> to worry about any specific Blockchain explorer or provide a means
> for
> >> >> the
> >> >> user to select one.
> >> >>
> >> >> Blockchain explorers in turn will simply offer to handle the
> >> >> blockchain:
> >> >> URI, the first time the user visit their website, or launch/install
> the
> >> >> application, or even set themselves if there isn't already one.
> >> >>
> >> >> Users get the convenience of using always their preferred explorer,
> >> >> which
> >> >> can be especially handy on mobile devices, where juggling with
> >> >> cut&paste
> >> >> is far from ideal.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Try the Online TrID File Identifier
> >> > http://mark0.net/onlinetrid.aspx
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > bitcoin-dev mailing list
> >> > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
> >> > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Try the Online TrID File Identifier
> > http://mark0.net/onlinetrid.aspx
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">OK, adding the relevant code fragment is probably the simp=
lest and direct option. Done.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n <span d=
ir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:jtimon@jtimon.cc" target=3D"_blank">jtimon=
@jtimon.cc</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Not a na=
tive english speaker myself, so I may have missed some things...<br>
<br>
Yes, sorry about the link. I guess you can point to #6230 . I can<br>
rebase it if needed but I would close it again because I don't want to<=
br>
have too many things from #6382 opened at the same time (is noisy and<br>
worse for review). My plan was to not open it independently at least<br>
until after #6907 (and actually after 0.12 assuming #6907 gets in by<br>
0.12). But then I would maybe open a new one and reference the old one<br>
rather than reopening #6230 (which tends to be confusing).<br>
I'm not really sure what's the best answer here...but #6382 is<br>
certainly going to need rebase and the link will be broken again.<br>
Maybe one answer is to copy some text from #6230 or the commit and add<br>
it directly to the BIP instead of referencing to that commit (which<br>
will be, at least until #6907 is merged, a moving target).<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Marco Pontello <<a href=3D"mailto:marco=
pon@gmail.com">marcopon@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Thanks for the comments! Now I fixed the typos (hope to have got them =
all,<br>
> English isn't my first language), clarified the chain part a bit, =
and fixed<br>
> the link. There probably is a better way to reference that source code=
part<br>
> with the genesis blocks hashs, in a way that doesn't need to be ch=
anged,<br>
> maybe...<br>
><br>
> Now the main change would be to put in a proper BIP number! :)<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n <jtimon@jtimon.c=
c> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you for incorporating the feedback, specifically thank you f=
or<br>
>> using the genesis block hash as the unique chain ID.<br>
>><br>
>> I wen't through the BIP draft and left a few of comments, but =
I really<br>
>> like its simplicity and focus. Good work!<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Marco Pontello via bitcoin-dev<br=
>
>> <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitco=
in-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > Hi!<br>
>> ><br>
>> > To anyone that followed the discussion (from some time ago) a=
bout the<br>
>> > proposed new URI for Blockchain references / exploration, I j=
ust wanted<br>
>> > to<br>
>> > point out that I have collected the feedback provided, rework=
ed the<br>
>> > text,<br>
>> > put the BIP on GitHub and created a pull request:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href=3D"https://github.com/MarcoPon/bips/blob/master/bip-M=
arcoPon-01.mediawiki" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.c=
om/MarcoPon/bips/blob/master/bip-MarcoPon-01.mediawiki</a><br>
>> > <a href=3D"https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/202" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/202</a><b=
r>
>> ><br>
>> > The need for an URI for this come to mind again in the last d=
ays looking<br>
>> > at<br>
>> > Eternity Wall, which IMHO provide a use case that we will see=
more and<br>
>> > more<br>
>> > in the (near) future: <a href=3D"http://eternitywall.it/" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://eternitywall.it/</a><br>
>> > Using that service, when you want to check for the proof that=
a specific<br>
>> > message was written in the Blockchain, it let you choose from=
5<br>
>> > different<br>
>> > explorer.<br>
>> > Mycelium wallet recently added the option to select one of 15=
block<br>
>> > explorers.<br>
>> > And there's the crypto_bot on reddit/r/bitcoin that detec=
t reference to<br>
>> > transaction an add a message with links to 7 different explor=
ers.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I think that's clearly something that's needed.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Bye!<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Marco Pontello <<a href=
=3D"mailto:marcopon@gmail.com">marcopon@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hi!<br>
>> >> My first post here, hope I'm following the right conv=
entions.<br>
>> >> I had this humble idea for a while, so I thought to go ah=
ead and<br>
>> >> propose<br>
>> >> it.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> BIP: XX<br>
>> >> Title: URI scheme for Blockchain exploration<br>
>> >> Author: Marco Pontello<br>
>> >> Status: Draft<br>
>> >> Type: Standards Track<br>
>> >> Created: 29 August 2015<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Abstract<br>
>> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>
>> >> This BIP propose a simple URI scheme for looking up block=
s,<br>
>> >> transactions,<br>
>> >> addresses on a Blockchain explorer.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Motivation<br>
>> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>
>> >> The purpose of this URI scheme is to enable users to hand=
le all the<br>
>> >> requests for details about blocks, transactions, etc. wit=
h their<br>
>> >> preferred<br>
>> >> tool (being that a web service or a local application).<b=
r>
>> >><br>
>> >> Currently a Bitcoin client usually point to an arbitrary =
blockchain<br>
>> >> explorer when the user look for the details of a transact=
ion (es.<br>
>> >> Bitcoin<br>
>> >> Wallet use BitEasy, Mycelium or Electrum use Blockchain.i=
nfo, etc.).<br>
>> >> Other times resorting to cut&paste is needed.<br>
>> >> The same happens with posts and messages that reference s=
ome particular<br>
>> >> txs or blocks, if they provide links at all.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Specification<br>
>> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>
>> >> The URI follow this simple form:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> blockchain: <hash/string><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Examples:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> blockchain:00000000000000001003e880d500968d51157f210c632e=
08a652af3576600198<br>
>> >> blockchain:001949<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> blockchain:3b95a766d7a99b87188d6875c8484cb2b310b78459b781=
6d4dfc3f0f7e04281a<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Rationale<br>
>> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>
>> >> I thought about using some more complex scheme, or adding=
qualifiers to<br>
>> >> distinguish blocks from txs, but in the end I think that =
keeping it<br>
>> >> simple<br>
>> >> should be practical enough. Blockchain explorers can appl=
y the same<br>
>> >> disambiguation rules they are already using to process th=
e usual search<br>
>> >> box.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> From the point of view of a wallet developer (or other to=
ol that need<br>
>> >> to<br>
>> >> show any kind of Blockchain references), using this schem=
e mean that he<br>
>> >> can simply make it a blockchain: link and be done with it=
, without<br>
>> >> having<br>
>> >> to worry about any specific Blockchain explorer or provid=
e a means for<br>
>> >> the<br>
>> >> user to select one.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Blockchain explorers in turn will simply offer to handle =
the<br>
>> >> blockchain:<br>
>> >> URI, the first time the user visit their website, or laun=
ch/install the<br>
>> >> application, or even set themselves if there isn't al=
ready one.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Users get the convenience of using always their preferred=
explorer,<br>
>> >> which<br>
>> >> can be especially handy on mobile devices, where juggling=
with<br>
>> >> cut&paste<br>
>> >> is far from ideal.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
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