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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Braidpool: Proposal for a decentralised mining
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On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 09:29:01AM +0200, Eric Voskuil wrote:
> It doesn=E2=80=99t centralize payment, which ultimately controls transact=
ion selection (censorship).
Yeah, but if you get paid after each share via LN and you can switch
pools instantly, then the worst case with centralized pools is that=20
you don't get paid for one share. If the hasher sets their share
difficulty low enough, that shouldn't be a big deal.
I'm interested in whether braidpool offers any significant benefits over
an idealized version of centralized mining with independent transaction
selection.
-Dave
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