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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamically Controlled Bitcoin Block Size Max Cap
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Can we please keep this mail chain discussion specific to the proposed
draft -
https://github.com/UpalChakraborty/bips/blob/master/BIP-DynamicMaxBlockSize.mediawiki
?
I understand, voting process is an important subject of discussion. But,
that may be discussed in a separate mail chain.
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Hector Chu via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On 26 August 2015 at 01:29, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > For instance, a very simple toy example that would work is just XORing
> your vote with SHA256(the entire blockchain)
>
> Uh, that would totally not work.
>
> I think my proposal of using CLTV to lock coins (votes) is better.
> Failing a soft-fork to implement that in time, counting votes from the
> UTXO set is also ok - the difference between that and CLTV is that it
> is not as strong an evidence of commitment.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Can we please keep this mail chain discussion specific to =
the proposed draft -=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/UpalChakraborty/bip=
s/blob/master/BIP-DynamicMaxBlockSize.mediawiki">https://github.com/UpalCha=
kraborty/bips/blob/master/BIP-DynamicMaxBlockSize.mediawiki</a> ?<div><br><=
/div><div>I understand, voting process is an important subject of discussio=
n. But, that may be discussed in a separate mail chain.</div></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1=
1:58 AM, Hector Chu via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto=
:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists=
.linuxfoundation.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
">On 26 August 2015 at 01:29, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev<br>
<span class=3D""><<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.or=
g">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> For instance, a very simple toy example that would work is just XORing=
your vote with SHA256(the entire blockchain)<br>
<br>
</span>Uh, that would totally not work.<br>
<br>
I think my proposal of using CLTV to lock coins (votes) is better.<br>
Failing a soft-fork to implement that in time, counting votes from the<br>
UTXO set is also ok - the difference between that and CLTV is that it<br>
is not as strong an evidence of commitment.<br>
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