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On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 9:49=E2=80=AFAM Joost Jager <joost.jager@gmail.com> =
wrote:

> The removal of the need for a commitment transaction also enables the
> inclusion of data within a single transaction that relies on its own
> transaction identifier (txid). This is possible because the txid
> calculation does not incorporate the annex, where the data would be house=
d.
> This feature can be beneficial in scenarios that require the emulation of
> covenants through the use of presigned transactions involving an ephemera=
l
> signer.
>

I think this avoidance of a circular reference is also why LN-Symmetry uses
the annex?

Joost

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 9:49=E2=80=AFAM Jo=
ost Jager &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:joost.jager@gmail.com">joost.jager@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>The removal of the need f=
or a commitment transaction also enables the inclusion of data within a sin=
gle transaction that relies on its own transaction identifier (txid). This =
is possible because the txid calculation does not incorporate the annex, wh=
ere the data would be housed. This feature can be beneficial in scenarios t=
hat require the emulation of covenants through the use of presigned transac=
tions involving an ephemeral signer.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div=
><div>I think this avoidance of a circular reference is also why LN-Symmetr=
y uses the annex?</div><div><br></div><div>Joost</div></div></div>

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