1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
127
128
129
130
131
132
133
134
135
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
143
144
145
146
147
148
149
150
151
152
153
154
155
156
157
158
159
160
161
162
163
164
165
166
167
168
169
170
171
172
173
174
175
176
177
|
Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191]
helo=mx.sourceforge.net)
by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76)
(envelope-from <alexy.kot.all@gmail.com>) id 1WQzza-00054G-S1
for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net;
Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:00:14 +0000
Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com
designates 209.85.220.181 as permitted sender)
client-ip=209.85.220.181; envelope-from=alexy.kot.all@gmail.com;
helo=mail-vc0-f181.google.com;
Received: from mail-vc0-f181.google.com ([209.85.220.181])
by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128)
(Exim 4.76) id 1WQzza-0002H6-02
for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net;
Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:00:14 +0000
Received: by mail-vc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id id10so2685652vcb.12
for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>;
Fri, 21 Mar 2014 07:00:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 10.52.243.167 with SMTP id wz7mr3549359vdc.47.1395410408483;
Fri, 21 Mar 2014 07:00:08 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Sender: alexy.kot.all@gmail.com
Received: by 10.59.0.38 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 06:59:28 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <lgh47n$tnn$2@ger.gmane.org>
References: <lc5hmg$1jh$1@ger.gmane.org> <leuunm$tjk$1@ger.gmane.org>
<CANEZrP3nQfvDArKTRgje0Cus4G2JD_zpxSjA3fXfxM2TNAP80Q@mail.gmail.com>
<CALDj+BafD+6KTNcYDBEu5gNPzYozSkiC-JCxrY-PzXL2DYBRsw@mail.gmail.com>
<CAJHLa0N4J_Z907+D0ENSNKfNAW2N=7Jf4JzSCO=SU558GtGTzA@mail.gmail.com>
<lge7nk$3mf$2@ger.gmane.org>
<CANEZrP0J849oDvMWjf8LWi0xj44Q8DaUwDip5_smVBMNgeQ3mw@mail.gmail.com>
<20140320121221.GA25052@netbook.cypherspace.org>
<CAJHLa0NeFdXzioQrmK6iKzr85pL3vvTAQH2_vKM3M+T+ZWYjgQ@mail.gmail.com>
<lgh47n$tnn$2@ger.gmane.org>
From: Alex Kotenko <alexykot@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:59:28 +0000
X-Google-Sender-Auth: Kp1hSOgW4_W09UC5xjzfDcLguUE
Message-ID: <CALDj+BbX+ejz+diWDGFJUyOLR6+GnbDyiiNpmEbHybNBj=jL7A@mail.gmail.com>
To: Andreas Schildbach <andreas@schildbach.de>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1bf16b6b48804f51e4dd7
X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/)
X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net.
See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.
-1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for
sender-domain
0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider
(alexy.kot.all[at]gmail.com)
-0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record
1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
-0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from
author's domain
0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature,
not necessarily valid
-0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature
X-Headers-End: 1WQzza-0002H6-02
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Payment Protocol for Face-to-face Payments
X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>,
<mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development>
List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>,
<mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:00:15 -0000
--001a11c1bf16b6b48804f51e4dd7
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
2014-03-21 10:28 GMT+00:00 Andreas Schildbach <andreas@schildbach.de>:
> On 03/20/2014 06:31 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
> >> Afaik, BIP73 needs an external server (the web server).
> >
> > Yes. Internet connectivity is not a rarity these days. Near-field
> > web servers also work fine.
>
> Unfortunately it still is. At least here in Germany.
Yes, it is a problem. Even in the middle of London you often can get into
situation when cellphone network connectivity is not good enough for quick
and reliable payment. Basement pubs, old buildings with thick walls,
overcrowded places with overloaded radio environment. We should not rely on
mobile connectivity in things like making payments.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book
> "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their
> applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,
> this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech
> _______________________________________________
> Bitcoin-development mailing list
> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>
--001a11c1bf16b6b48804f51e4dd7
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:'cou=
rier new',monospace;color:rgb(0,51,0)"><span style=3D"font-family:arial=
;color:rgb(34,34,34)">2014-03-21 10:28 GMT+00:00 Andreas Schildbach </span>=
<span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:andreas@schildbach.de" target=3D"_blank">andreas@schildbach.de=
</a>></span><span style=3D"font-family:arial;color:rgb(34,34,34)">:</spa=
n><br>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;=
border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div class=3D"">
On 03/20/2014 06:31 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote:<br>
<br>
>> Afaik, BIP73 needs an external server (the web server).<br>
><br>
> Yes. =C2=A0Internet connectivity is not a rarity these days. =C2=A0Nea=
r-field<br>
> web servers also work fine.<br>
<br>
</div>Unfortunately it still is. At least here in Germany.</blockquote><div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:'courier new',mo=
nospace;color:rgb(0,51,0)">Yes, it is a problem. Even in the middle of Lond=
on you often can get into situation when cellphone network connectivity is =
not good enough for quick and reliable payment. Basement pubs, old building=
s with thick walls, overcrowded places with overloaded radio environment. W=
e should not rely on mobile connectivity in things like making payments.</d=
iv>
</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(=
204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">=C2=A0</blockquote><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D""><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
---<br>
Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book<br>
"Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases =
and their<br>
applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,<br>
this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!<br>
<a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech" target=3D"_blank">http://p.sf=
.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech</a><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Bitcoin-development mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net">Bitcoin-develo=
pment@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development=
" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-de=
velopment</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>
--001a11c1bf16b6b48804f51e4dd7--
|