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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Long-term mining incentives
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Added back the list, I didn't mean to reply privately:

Fair enough, I'll try to find time in the next month or three to write up
four plausible future scenarios for how mining incentives might work:

1) Fee-supported with very large blocks containing lots of tiny-fee
transactions
2) Proof-of-idle supported (I wish Tadge Dryja would publish his
proof-of-idle idea....)
3) Fees purely as transaction-spam-prevention measure, chain security via
alternative consensus algorithm (in this scenario there is very little
mining).
4) Fee supported with small blocks containing high-fee transactions moving
coins to/from sidechains.

Would that be helpful, or do you have some reason for thinking that we
should pick just one and focus all of our efforts on making that one
scenario happen?

I always think it is better, when possible, not to "bet on one horse."


On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Thomas Voegtlin <thomasv@electrum.org>
wrote:

> Le 12/05/2015 15:44, Gavin Andresen a =C3=A9crit :
> > Ok, here's my scenario:
> >
> > https://blog.bitcoinfoundation.org/a-scalability-roadmap/
> >
> > It might be wrong. I welcome other people to present their road maps.
> >
>
> [answering to you only because you answered to me and not to the list;
> feel free to repost this to the list though]
>
> Yes, that's exactly the kind of roadmap I am asking for. But your blog
> post does not say anything about long term mining incentives, it only
> talks about scalability. My point is that we need the same kind of thing
> for miners incentives.
>



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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Added back the list, I didn&#39;t mean to reply priva=
tely:</div><div><br></div>Fair enough, I&#39;ll try to find time in the nex=
t month or three to write up four plausible future scenarios for how mining=
 incentives might work:<div><br></div><div>1) Fee-supported with very large=
 blocks containing lots of tiny-fee transactions</div><div>2) Proof-of-idle=
 supported (I wish Tadge Dryja would publish his proof-of-idle idea....)</d=
iv><div>3) Fees purely as transaction-spam-prevention measure, chain securi=
ty via alternative consensus algorithm (in this scenario there is very litt=
le mining).</div><div>4) Fee supported with small blocks containing high-fe=
e transactions moving coins to/from sidechains.</div><div><br></div><div>Wo=
uld that be helpful, or do you have some reason for thinking that we should=
 pick just one and focus all of our efforts on making that one scenario hap=
pen?</div><div><br></div><div>I always think it is better, when possible, n=
ot to &quot;bet on one horse.&quot;</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Th=
omas Voegtlin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:thomasv@electrum.org"=
 target=3D"_blank">thomasv@electrum.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">Le 12/05/2015 15:44, Gavin Andresen a=
 =C3=A9crit :<br>
&gt; Ok, here&#39;s my scenario:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://blog.bitcoinfoundation.org/a-scalability-roadmap/" =
target=3D"_blank">https://blog.bitcoinfoundation.org/a-scalability-roadmap/=
</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It might be wrong. I welcome other people to present their road maps.<=
br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</span>[answering to you only because you answered to me and not to the lis=
t;<br>
feel free to repost this to the list though]<br>
<br>
Yes, that&#39;s exactly the kind of roadmap I am asking for. But your blog<=
br>
post does not say anything about long term mining incentives, it only<br>
talks about scalability. My point is that we need the same kind of thing<br=
>
for miners incentives.<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=
=3D"gmail_signature">--<br>Gavin Andresen<br></div>
</div></div>

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