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That's not what I said. We don't seem able to communicate with each other
efficiently, probably my fault since English is not my native language. But
I don't want to use more of my time (or yours) in this discussion, since
it's clearly unproductive.
On Jul 28, 2015 6:45 PM, "Tom Harding" <tomh@thinlink.com> wrote:
> Jorge,
>
> We obviously disagree fundamentally on the role of societal adoption, in
> the system that Satoshi designed.
>
> Adoption is well ahead of Satoshi's schedule, and the measure of this is
> the exchange rate. It is at once an imperfect measure, and one of the most
> perfect markets that has ever existed.
>
> As long as hardware, electric power, and bandwidth are priced in fiat
> currency, the exchange rate is a critical variable to security, capacity,
> and other metrics of network health.
>
> It's not inconsistent that you consider the exchange rate irrelevant. In
> fact it explains why you believe that Satoshi's timetable for transitioning
> to fee incentives can be summarily tossed aside and replaced with something
> you think is better.
>
> Here's an English saying I just invented. A bunch of geniuses can do a
> lot more damage than one fool.
>
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">That's not what I said. We don't seem able to commun=
icate with each other efficiently, probably my fault since English is not m=
y native language. But I don't want to use more of my time (or yours) i=
n this discussion, since it's clearly unproductive.</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 28, 2015 6:45 PM, "Tom Harding"=
<<a href=3D"mailto:tomh@thinlink.com">tomh@thinlink.com</a>> wrote:<=
br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Jorge,<br>
<br>
We obviously disagree fundamentally on the role of societal adoption, in th=
e system that Satoshi designed.<br>
<br>
Adoption is well ahead of Satoshi's schedule, and the measure of this i=
s the exchange rate.=C2=A0 It is at once an imperfect measure, and one of t=
he most perfect markets that has ever existed.<br>
<br>
As long as hardware, electric power, and bandwidth are priced in fiat curre=
ncy, the exchange rate is a critical variable to security, capacity, and ot=
her metrics of network health.<br>
<br>
It's not inconsistent that you consider the exchange rate irrelevant.=
=C2=A0 In fact it explains why you believe that Satoshi's timetable for=
transitioning to fee incentives can be summarily tossed aside and replaced=
with something you think is better.<br>
<br>
Here's an English saying I just invented.=C2=A0 A bunch of geniuses can=
do a lot more damage than one fool.<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
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