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From: Keagan McClelland <keagan.mcclelland@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 17:47:37 -0700
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LORD HIS EXCELLENCY,

This isn't different with Taproot either. When you spend a P2SH output you
reveal the script. In Taproot you reveal the portion of the script that is
relevant to allowing you to spend it. There is no value to specifying the
other possible conditions that could have moved the coins because, after
all, you aren't invoking those clauses to move the coins. I am showing you
my fingertip, and pointing to my finger tip, the palm is not relevant.

Keagan

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 2:11 AM LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH via
bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> Good Afternoon,
>
> You cannot liken the ability to scrutinise the public ledger to be the
> same as hiding information, it is like showing your palm while you are
> pointing at the back of your hand. The advice that I have is P2SH is
> scrutable once the UTXO is spent. Also, there is no public ledger
> obfuscation in creating new addresses, there is a plausible reduction in
> transaction linkage.
>
> KING JAMES HRMH
> Great British Empire
>
> Regards,
> The Australian
> LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (& HMRH)
> of Hougun Manor & Glencoe & British Empire
> MR. Damian A. James Williamson
> Wills
>
> et al.
>
>
> Willtech
> www.willtech.com.au
> www.go-overt.com
> and other projects
>
> earn.com/willtech
> linkedin.com/in/damianwilliamson
>
>
> m. 0487135719
> f. +61261470192
>
>
> This email does not constitute a general advice. Please disregard this
> email if misdelivered.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org> on
> behalf of Ryan Grant via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, 6 March 2021 1:04 AM
> *To:* Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot NACK
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 8:48 PM LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH via
> bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > My concern was that the more complex scripts allow obfuscation of the
> Pay To address
>
> This is no different from options available in P2SH, or from the
> obfuscation achieved by generating a new address for a payment.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>LORD HIS EXCELLENCY,</div><div><br></div>This isn&#39=
;t different with Taproot either. When you spend a P2SH output you reveal t=
he script. In Taproot you reveal the portion of the script that is relevant=
 to allowing you to spend it. There is no value to specifying the other pos=
sible conditions that could have moved the coins because, after all, you ar=
en&#39;t invoking those clauses to move the coins. I am showing you my fing=
ertip, and pointing to my finger tip, the palm is not relevant.<div><br></d=
iv><div>Keagan</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 2:11 AM LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAM=
ES HRMH via bitcoin-dev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfounda=
tion.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">




<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Good Afternoon,</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div><br>
</div>
You cannot liken the ability to scrutinise the public ledger to be the same=
 as hiding information, it is like showing your palm while you are pointing=
 at the back of your hand. The advice that I have is P2SH is scrutable once=
 the UTXO is spent. Also, there
 is no public ledger obfuscation in creating new addresses, there is a plau=
sible reduction in transaction linkage.<br>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-6731656619883417203Signature">
<div>
<div></div>
<div></div>
<div></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div>KING JAMES HRMH</div>
<div>Great British Empire<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div>The Australian</div>
<div>LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (&amp; HMRH)</div>
<div>of Hougun Manor &amp; Glencoe &amp; British Empire</div>
<div>MR. Damian A. James Williamson</div>
<div>Wills</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>et al.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Willtech</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.willtech.com.au" target=3D"_blank">www.willtech.=
com.au</a></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.go-overt.com" target=3D"_blank">www.go-overt.com=
</a></div>
<div>and other projects</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://earn.com/willtech" target=3D"_blank">earn.com/willte=
ch</a></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://linkedin.com/in/damianwilliamson" target=3D"_blank">=
linkedin.com/in/damianwilliamson</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>m. 0487135719</div>
<div>f. +61261470192</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt">This email does not constitute a general adv=
ice. Please disregard this email if misdelivered.</span><br>
</div>
<div></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-6731656619883417203divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font sty=
le=3D"font-size:11pt" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><b>Fro=
m:</b> bitcoin-dev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev-bounces@lists.linuxfou=
ndation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.or=
g</a>&gt; on behalf of Ryan Grant via bitcoin-dev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bit=
coin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.lin=
uxfoundation.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 6 March 2021 1:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bitcoin Protocol Discussion &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@li=
sts.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundatio=
n.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot NACK</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">
<div>On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 8:48 PM LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH via<br>
bitcoin-dev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; My concern was that the more complex scripts allow obfuscation of the =
Pay To address<br>
<br>
This is no different from options available in P2SH, or from the<br>
obfuscation achieved by generating a new address for a payment.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
bitcoin-dev mailing list<br>
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bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br>
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target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoi=
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