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Thank you for bringing that to my attention, apologies for not being aware
of it.

First-seen-safe replace-by-fee as detailed here
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-May/008248.html
by Peter Todd  seems to be a very suitable option and route which balances
FullRBF while retaining  the significant 0-conf use case.

This would seem like a good way forward.



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On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 6:20 AM Yuval Kogman <nothingmuch@woobling.org>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you for bringing that to my attention, apologies for=
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iv><div><br></div><div>This would seem like a good way forward.</div><div><=
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</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 6:20 AM Yuval Kogman &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:nothingmuch@woobling.org">nothingmuch@woobling.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><a href=3D"https://li=
sts.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-May/008248.html" rel=3D"=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/b=
itcoin-dev/2015-May/008248.html</a><br>
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