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The frivolous use of block space - ie. to increase the demand for block spa=
ce - is not encouraged. Although it is possible you may write chess moves =
on a wrap of dollar bills and send them to your friends, nowhere that I kno=
w of has this been recorded in a ledger as a valid past time.
KING JAMES HRMH
Great British Empire
Regards,
The Australian
LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (& HMRH)
of Hougun Manor & Glencoe & British Empire
MR. Damian A. James Williamson
Wills
et al.
Willtech
www.willtech.com.au
www.go-overt.com
duigco.org DUIGCO API
and other projects
m. 0487135719
f. +61261470192
This email does not constitute a general advice. Please disregard this emai=
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From: bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org> on behalf=
of Prayank via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Sent: Saturday, 4 December 2021 3:36 PM
To: Lightning Dev <lightning-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: [bitcoin-dev] Pawn (chess piece) | Breaking bitcoin by playing che=
ss
Hello World,
Link with what, why and how: https://gist.github.com/prayank23/22763f48199e=
d106e59801be43ad4efc
Two related things that I found:
1.Koala Studio tried chess on LN in 2019 but shutdown in August 2019
2.Etleneum still has chess but works differently
Primary goal of this project can be different and focus on testing Bitcoin =
transactions. Secondary goal is to have fun and contribute in increasing de=
mand for block space. Maybe an app for developers to play chess, friendly c=
ompetitions, learn and share new things.
If chess sounds boring it can be replaced with any 2 player game that works=
for such setup and can be played with patience over few hours/days.
Spam? Sorry zero fee transactions do not work anymore. In fact, nothing bel=
ow 1 sat/vbyte fee rate would work and all transactions will pay fees that =
are required long term. OP_RETURN is used by many projects and excluded fro=
m UTXO set. Let me know if something looks wrong. I won't be working on thi=
s as busy with another project and recently started contributing in Wasabi.
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The frivolous use of block space - ie. to increase the demand for block spa=
ce - is not encouraged. Although it is possible you may write chess m=
oves on a wrap of dollar bills and send them to your friends, nowhere that =
I know of has this been recorded in a
ledger as a valid past time.</div>
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KING JAMES HRMH
<div>Great British Empire</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>The Australian</div>
<div>LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (& HMRH)</div>
<div>of Hougun Manor & Glencoe & British Empire</div>
<div>MR. Damian A. James Williamson</div>
<div>Wills</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>et al.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Willtech</div>
<div>www.willtech.com.au</div>
<div>www.go-overt.com</div>
<div>duigco.org DUIGCO API</div>
<div>and other projects</div>
<div> </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>m. 0487135719</div>
<div>f. +61261470192</div>
<div><br>
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ion.org> on behalf of Prayank via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linu=
xfoundation.org></font><br>
<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt" face=
=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 4 Decembe=
r 2021 3:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lightning Dev <lightning-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org><br=
>
<b>Cc:</b> Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [bitcoin-dev] Pawn (chess piece) | Breaking bitcoin by play=
ing chess</font>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div>Hello World,<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Link with what, why and how: https://gist.github.com/pray=
ank23/22763f48199ed106e59801be43ad4efc<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Two related things that I found: <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">1.<span class=3D""><span class=3D"">Koala Studio tried ch=
ess on LN in 2019 but shutdown in August 2019</span></span><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span class=3D""><span class=3D"">2.Etleneum still has ch=
ess but works differently</span></span><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span class=3D""><span class=3D"">Primary goal of this pr=
oject can be different and focus on testing Bitcoin transactions. Secondary=
goal is to have fun and contribute in increasing demand for block space. M=
aybe an app for developers to play chess,
friendly competitions, learn and share new things. </span></span><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span class=3D""><span class=3D"">If chess sounds boring =
it can be replaced with any 2 player game that works for such setup and can=
be played with patience over few hours/days.</span></span><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span class=3D""><span class=3D"">Spam? Sorry zero fee tr=
ansactions do not work anymore. In fact, nothing below 1 sat/vbyte fee rate=
would work and all transactions will pay fees that are required long term.=
OP_RETURN is used by many projects and
excluded from UTXO set. Let me know if something looks wrong. I won't be w=
orking on this as busy with another project and recently started contributi=
ng in Wasabi.</span></span><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span class=3D""><span class=3D""></span></span><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-- <br>
</div>
<div>Prayank<br>
</div>
<div><br>
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