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It would be nice to decouple the venue, but even BIP 1 gives that
control to whoever controls the mailing list: "Following a discussion,
the proposal should be sent to the bitcoin-dev list and the BIP editor
with the draft BIP." (BIP 1)

A neater way to do it might be to replace references to the mailing list
with "public discussion medium" where "medium" can be defined as
something like any discussion forum frequented by the wider development
community, like the pull requests section of the BIP repo, conferences, etc.

On 02/02/16 15:58, Gavin Andresen via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Luke Dashjr via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
> <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>> wrote:
>
>     I've completed an initial draft of a BIP that provides
>     clarifications on the
>     Status field for BIPs, as well as adding the ability for public
>     comments on
>     them, and expanding the list of allowable BIP licenses.
>
>     https://github.com/luke-jr/bips/blob/bip-biprevised/bip-biprevised.mediawiki
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>     I plan to open discussion of making this BIP an Active status
>     (along with BIP
>     123) a month after initial revisions have completed. Please
>     provide any
>     objections now, so I can try to address them now and enable
>     consensus to be
>     reached.
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>  
>
> I like the more concrete definitions of the various statuses.
>
> I don't like the definition of "consensus".  I think the definition
> described gives too much centralized control to whoever controls the
> mailing list and the wiki.
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    It would be nice to decouple the venue, but even BIP 1 gives that
    control to whoever controls the mailing list: "Following a
    discussion, the proposal should be sent to the bitcoin-dev list and
    the BIP editor with the draft BIP." (BIP 1)<br>
    <br>
    A neater way to do it might be to replace references to the mailing
    list with "public discussion medium" where "medium" can be defined
    as something like any discussion forum frequented by the wider
    development community, like the pull requests section of the BIP
    repo, conferences, etc.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/02/16 15:58, Gavin Andresen via
      bitcoin-dev wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CABsx9T2X+2Vnwd3RJJvRpNKbO2S1kY8JS2YqHEKUmAhYSNpkBg@mail.gmail.com"
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Luke
            Dashjr via bitcoin-dev <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
                target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a></a>&gt;</span>
            wrote:<br>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">I've
              completed an initial draft of a BIP that provides
              clarifications on the<br>
              Status field for BIPs, as well as adding the ability for
              public comments on<br>
              them, and expanding the list of allowable BIP licenses.<br>
              <br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/luke-jr/bips/blob/bip-biprevised/bip-biprevised.mediawiki"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/luke-jr/bips/blob/bip-biprevised/bip-biprevised.mediawiki</a><br>
              <br>
              I plan to open discussion of making this BIP an Active
              status (along with BIP<br>
              123) a month after initial revisions have completed.
              Please provide any<br>
              objections now, so I can try to address them now and
              enable consensus to be<br>
              reached.<br>
            </blockquote>
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          <div>I like the more concrete definitions of the various
            statuses.</div>
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          <div>I don't like the definition of "consensus".  I think the
            definition described gives too much centralized control to
            whoever controls the mailing list and the wiki.</div>
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