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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] moving the default display to mbtc
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Go straight to uBTC. Humans and existing computer systems handle numbers to
the left of the decimals just fine (HK Dollars, Yen). The opposite is
untrue (QuickBooks really does not like 3+ decimal places).

     - Jeff
On Nov 14, 2013 4:40 PM, "Mark Friedenbach" <mark@monetize.io> wrote:

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> uBTC. Having eight, or even five decimal places is not intuitive to
> the average user. Two decimal places is becoming standard for new
> national currencies, and we wouldn't be too far from human scale
> everyday numbers: 25.00uBTC ~= $0.01 currently. And I don't think very
> many people on this list would consider bitcoin overvalued in the long
> term perspective.
>
> Better to go through a confusing renumbering only once.
>
> Mark
>
> On 11/14/13 12:01 PM, Alan Reiner wrote:
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> > base unit in such an established system.  There is no easy way to
> > do this that doesn't cause more heartache than it's worth...
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Nov 14, 2013 4:40 PM, &quot;Mark Friedenbach&=
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