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On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Luke-Jr <luke@dashjr.org> wrote:

>
> How are they compatible if they could be using entirely different word
> lists??
>
>
Wordlist is necessary for the step [seed]->[mnemonic]. Step
[mnemonic]->[bip32 root] doesn't need any wordlist, there's just hashing
involved.
For this reason client can generate whatever mnemonic and unless all
clients use the same process [mnemonic]->[bip32 root], the result is the
same.


> Maybe I'm missing something, but shouldn't this be a client-side thing, not
> implemented in the Trezor firmware at all?? O.o;;
>
>
Trezor generates the seed and transforms it to mnemonic (which is then
shown on internal display). Generating the mnemonic outside the client-side
(computer) is one of main functionality of Trezor.

slush

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Luke-Jr <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:luke@dashjr.org" target=3D"_blank">luke@dashjr.org</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"im"><br>
</div>How are they compatible if they could be using entirely different wor=
d lists??<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Wordlist is ne=
cessary for the step [seed]-&gt;[mnemonic]. Step [mnemonic]-&gt;[bip32 root=
] doesn&#39;t need any wordlist, there&#39;s just hashing involved.</div>

<div>For this reason client can generate whatever mnemonic and unless all c=
lients use the same process [mnemonic]-&gt;[bip32 root], the result is the =
same.</div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Maybe I&#39;m missing something, but shouldn&#39;t this be a client-side th=
ing, not<br>
implemented in the Trezor firmware at all?? O.o;;<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Trezor generates the seed and transfor=
ms it to mnemonic (which is then shown on internal display). Generating the=
 mnemonic outside the client-side (computer) is one of main functionality o=
f Trezor.</div>

<div><br></div><div>slush</div></div></div></div>

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