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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] The relationship between
Proof-of-Publication and Anti-Replay Oracles
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On 2014-12-22 00:11, Peter Todd wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 09:48:01AM -0500, Peter Todd wrote:
> The classic "proof-of-publication" system is to embed opaque data (as
> far as bitcoin miners are concerned) in transactions using OP_RETURN.
> A significance of establishing "proof-of-publication" as a universal
> underlying primitive is that this OP_RETURN trick is then sufficient
> for anything you might want. But part of what Bitcoin provides is
> indexing and validation/exclusion, and this is important for
> supporting efficient anti-replay proofs. Proof-of-(non)-publication
> alone isn't sufficient for this.
Are we going to get an answer to this or Adam Back's critique? Doesn't
sound like this so-called "proof-of-publication" actually works
according to the experts. Is it an concept anyone but Peter Todd
actually believes in?
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