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From: Weikeng Chen <weikeng.chen@l2iterative.com>
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Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Time to add CSFS to Signet?
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Moonsettler,=20

I can see that LNHANCE has already had a live "mutinynet" working as a=20
functional network for testing.
Do you think it is still necessary to add it to the "signet" signet or just=
=20
wait until more progress with CTV + CSFS on the bitcoin/bitcoin repository=
=20
as PRs and then to testnet?

Thanks,
Weikeng

On Tuesday, March 18, 2025 at 7:12:09=E2=80=AFAM UTC+8 moonsettler wrote:

> Hi Weikeng,
>
> CSFS is on signet. All the LNhance opcodes are on mutinynet.
> https://github.com/lnhance/mutinynet-bitcoin/tree/mutinynet-cat-ln-hance
> https://faucet.mutinynet.com/
>
> [signet]
>
> signetchallenge=3D512102f7561d208dd9ae99bf497273e16f389bdbd6c4742ddb8e6b2=
16e64fa2928ad8f51ae
> addnode=3D45.79.52.207:38333
> dnsseed=3D0
> signetblocktime=3D30
>
> BR,
> moonsettler
>
>
> Sent with Proton Mail secure email.
>
> On Monday, March 17th, 2025 at 4:38 AM, Weikeng Chen <
> weiken...@l2iterative.com> wrote:
>
> > I am writing just to solicit people's opinions on whether CSFS should b=
e=20
> added to signet given that CTV + CSFS combination has recently received a=
=20
> lot of support. Although CTV has already been on signet for a few years,=
=20
> CSFS isn't.
> > With CTV and CSFS being on the signet also allows part of the LNHANCE t=
o=20
> start experimenting, and it has been discussed that CSFS helps with BitVM=
=20
> by replacing Winternitz signatures completely with a much lower potential=
=20
> on-chain data availability overhead. This also allows applications relyin=
g=20
> on CTV + CSFS to develop further.
> >=20
> > Thanks,
> > Weikeng
> >=20
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Moonsettler,=C2=A0<div><br /></div><div>I can see that LNHANCE has already =
had a live "mutinynet" working as a functional network for testing.</div><d=
iv>Do you think it is still necessary to add it to the "signet" signet or j=
ust wait until more progress with CTV + CSFS on the bitcoin/bitcoin reposit=
ory as PRs and then to testnet?</div><div><br /></div><div>Thanks,</div><di=
v>Weikeng<br /><br /></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"auto" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Tuesday, March 18, 2025 at 7:12:09=E2=80=AFAM UTC+8 mo=
onsettler wrote:<br/></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n: 0 0 0 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1e=
x;">Hi Weikeng,
<br>
<br>CSFS is on signet. All the LNhance opcodes are on mutinynet.
<br><a href=3D"https://github.com/lnhance/mutinynet-bitcoin/tree/mutinynet-=
cat-ln-hance" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" data-saferedirecturl=3D"ht=
tps://www.google.com/url?hl=3Den&amp;q=3Dhttps://github.com/lnhance/mutinyn=
et-bitcoin/tree/mutinynet-cat-ln-hance&amp;source=3Dgmail&amp;ust=3D1742367=
157659000&amp;usg=3DAOvVaw18iYwUaxfgCtHj9G09AmhS">https://github.com/lnhanc=
e/mutinynet-bitcoin/tree/mutinynet-cat-ln-hance</a>
<br><a href=3D"https://faucet.mutinynet.com/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofo=
llow" data-saferedirecturl=3D"https://www.google.com/url?hl=3Den&amp;q=3Dht=
tps://faucet.mutinynet.com/&amp;source=3Dgmail&amp;ust=3D1742367157659000&a=
mp;usg=3DAOvVaw0BfmGYgDMZ0WocSxTxdMt4">https://faucet.mutinynet.com/</a>
<br>
<br>[signet]
<br>signetchallenge=3D512102f7561d208dd9ae99bf497273e16f389bdbd6c4742ddb8e6=
b216e64fa2928ad8f51ae
<br>addnode=3D<a href=3D"http://45.79.52.207:38333" target=3D"_blank" rel=
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00&amp;usg=3DAOvVaw0qwyq3lPYYdkVfKvAX9F7C">45.79.52.207:38333</a>
<br>dnsseed=3D0
<br>signetblocktime=3D30
<br>
<br>BR,
<br>moonsettler
<br>
<br>
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<br>On Monday, March 17th, 2025 at 4:38 AM, Weikeng Chen &lt;<a href data-e=
mail-masked rel=3D"nofollow">weiken...@l2iterative.com</a>&gt; wrote:
<br>
<br>&gt; I am writing just to solicit people&#39;s opinions on whether CSFS=
 should be added to signet given that CTV + CSFS combination has recently r=
eceived a lot of support. Although CTV has already been on signet for a few=
 years, CSFS isn&#39;t.
<br>&gt; With CTV and CSFS being on the signet also allows part of the LNHA=
NCE to start experimenting, and it has been discussed that CSFS helps with =
BitVM by replacing Winternitz signatures completely with a much lower poten=
tial on-chain data availability overhead. This also allows applications rel=
ying on CTV + CSFS to develop further.
<br>&gt;=20
<br>&gt; Thanks,
<br>&gt; Weikeng
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