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It is vulnerable to sybil attacks or where the recipient is a victim of a
proxy attack. If the recipient is not connected to a valid Network, then
double spends could be allowed.
as long as this protocol is intended for use of transactions around a
dollar or so I don't see that being a financially lucrative attack.
However consider a large department store. If I put a "fence" around that
store and control all of its outbound peer connections, I can then allow
double spends for the duration of my visit at the store.
In order to defend against this large retailers would have to use
distributed / trusted nodes and certificates.
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021, 4:14 PM raymo via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a proposal for improve Bitcoin TPS and privacy, here is the post.
>
> https://raymo-49157.medium.com/time-to-boost-bitcoin-circulation-million-transactions-per-second-and-privacy-1eef8568d180
> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5344020.0
> Can you please read it and share your idea about it.
>
> Cheers
> Raymo
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<div dir=3D"auto">It is vulnerable to sybil attacks or where the recipient =
is a victim of a proxy attack.=C2=A0 If the recipient is not connected to a=
valid Network, then double spends could be allowed.<div dir=3D"auto"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0as long as this protocol is intended for use o=
f transactions around a dollar or so I don't see that being a financial=
ly lucrative attack.<br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>However consider a large department store.=C2=A0 If I put a "fence&qu=
ot; around that store and control all of its outbound peer connections, I c=
an then allow double spends for the duration of my visit at the store.</div=
><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">In order to defend against t=
his large retailers would have to use distributed / trusted nodes and certi=
ficates.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"aut=
o"><br><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu=
, Jun 17, 2021, 4:14 PM raymo via bitcoin-dev <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin=
-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
I have a proposal for improve Bitcoin TPS and privacy, here is the post.<br=
>
<a href=3D"https://raymo-49157.medium.com/time-to-boost-bitcoin-circulation=
-million-transactions-per-second-and-privacy-1eef8568d180" rel=3D"noreferre=
r noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://raymo-49157.medium.com/time-to-boos=
t-bitcoin-circulation-million-transactions-per-second-and-privacy-1eef8568d=
180</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D5344020.0" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topi=
c=3D5344020.0</a><br>
Can you please read it and share your idea about it.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Raymo<br>
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