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On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Danny Thorpe <danny.thorpe@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> What of this prior effort, proposing B-with-horizontal-bar (=C9=83)?
> http://bitcoinsymbol.org/
>
> They argue that B-with-2-vertical-bars is easily confused with the Thai
> Bhat currency symbol, which is a B with a single vertical bar.
>
Actually that page argues that using the Thai Bhat currency symbol *for*
Bitcoin causes confusion. From the page you linked to:
The Thai Baht (=E0=B8=BF <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_baht>) is some=
times
used to represent Bitcoin, but this certainly raises a problem of
differenciation between the Thai Baht and Bitcoin.
Their main motivation for using the horizontal-bar =C9=83 (which they admit=
is a
hack) is they consider adding a character to Unicode to be a "really long
and complicated process". My view is that adding the bitcoin sign to
Unicode avoids confusion with the Thai Baht, avoids hacks such as =C9=83, a=
nd
lets everyone use the standard symbol. Hopefully it won't be a really long
and complicated process...
Ken
> I'm not terribly fond of the B-with-horizontal-bar as a symbol, but it
> does have the advantage that it is already in the Unicode glyph set,
> already available on most Unicode enabled devices.
>
> -Danny
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Use of the bitcoin symbol in text is inconvenient, because the bitcoin
>> symbol isn't in the Unicode standard. To fix this, I've written a propos=
al
>> to have the common B-with-vertical-bars bitcoin symbol added to Unicode.
>> I've successfully proposed a new character for Unicode before, so I'm
>> familiar with the process and think this has a good chance of succeeding=
.
>> The proposal is at http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf
>>
>> I received a suggestion to run this proposal by the bitcoin-dev group, s=
o
>> I hope this email is appropriate here. Endorsement by Bitcoin developers
>> will help the Unicode Committee realize the importance of adding this
>> symbol, so please let me know if you support this proposal.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Danny Thorpe <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:danny.thorpe@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">danny.thorpe@gmail.=
com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,2=
04);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">What of this=
prior effort, proposing B-with-horizontal-bar (=C9=83)? <a href=3D"http://=
bitcoinsymbol.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://bitcoinsymbol.org/</a><div><br=
></div><div>They argue that B-with-2-vertical-bars is easily confused with =
the Thai Bhat currency symbol, which is a B with a single vertical bar.=C2=
=A0</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Actually that page argues t=
hat using the Thai Bhat currency symbol <i>for</i> Bitcoin causes confusion=
. From the page you linked to:</div><div><br></div><div><font size=3D"4"><s=
pan style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:source_sans_pro,arial,sans-serif;=
line-height:26px">The Thai Baht (</span><a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org=
/wiki/Thai_baht" style=3D"border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-bottom-style:soli=
d;border-color:initial;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:26px;font-family:so=
urce_sans_pro,arial,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;margin:0px;padding:0=
px;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">=E0=B8=BF</a><span style=3D"color=
:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:source_sans_pro,arial,sans-serif;line-height:26px">=
) is sometimes used to represent Bitcoin, but this certainly raises a probl=
em of differenciation between the Thai Baht and Bitcoin.</span></font></div=
><div>=C2=A0</div><div>Their main motivation for using the horizontal-bar=
=C2=A0=C9=83 (which they admit is a hack) is they consider adding a charact=
er to Unicode to be a=C2=A0"really long and complicated process".=
My view is that adding the bitcoin sign to Unicode avoids confusion with t=
he Thai Baht, avoids hacks such as=C2=A0=C9=83, and lets everyone use the s=
tandard symbol. Hopefully it won't be a really long and complicated pro=
cess...</div><div><br></div><div>Ken</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;bo=
rder-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div>I'm not terribly fond of the B-wit=
h-horizontal-bar as a symbol, but it does have the advantage that it is alr=
eady in the Unicode glyph set, already available on most Unicode enabled de=
vices.</div><div><br></div><div>-Danny</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"h5">On Sat, Sep 5, 2015=
at 7:11 AM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"=
mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev=
@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote=
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:=
1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left=
:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">Use of the bitco=
in symbol in text is inconvenient, because the bitcoin symbol isn't in =
the Unicode standard. To fix this, I've written a proposal to have the =
common B-with-vertical-bars bitcoin symbol added to Unicode. I've succe=
ssfully proposed a new character for Unicode before, so I'm familiar wi=
th the process and think this has a good chance of succeeding. The proposal=
is at=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div>I received a suggestion to run this proposal by the bitcoin-d=
ev group, so I hope this email is appropriate here. Endorsement by Bitcoin =
developers will help the Unicode Committee realize the importance of adding=
this symbol, so please let me know if you support this proposal. </div><di=
v><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ken</div></div>
</div><br></div>
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