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Subject: [bitcoin-dev] block size - pay with difficulty
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Schemes proposing to pay with difficulty / hashpower to change block size
should be avoided. The miners incentive has always been fairly
straightforward - it is rational to deploy new hashpower as soon as you can
get it online. Introducing the concepts of (a) requiring out-of-band
collusion to change block size and/or (b) requiring miners to have idle
hashpower on hand to change block size are both unrealistic and potentially
corrosive. That potentially makes the block size - and therefore fee
market - too close, too sensitive to the wild vagaries of the mining chip
market.
Pay-to-future-miner has neutral, forward looking incentives worth
researching.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Schemes proposing to pay with difficulty / hashpower to ch=
ange block size should be avoided.=C2=A0 The miners incentive has always be=
en fairly straightforward - it is rational to deploy new hashpower as soon =
as you can get it online.=C2=A0 Introducing the concepts of (a) requiring o=
ut-of-band collusion to change block size and/or (b) requiring miners to ha=
ve idle hashpower on hand to change block size are both unrealistic and pot=
entially corrosive.=C2=A0 That potentially makes the block size - and there=
fore fee market - too close, too sensitive to the wild vagaries of the mini=
ng chip market.<div><br></div><div>Pay-to-future-miner has neutral, forward=
looking incentives worth researching.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><=
/div>
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