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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Mempool spam] Should we as developers reject
non-standard Taproot transactions from full nodes?
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Action should have been taken months ago. Spam filtration has been a
standard part of Bitcoin Core since day 1. It's a mistake that the
existing filters weren't extended to Taproot transactions. We can
address that, or try a more narrow approach like OP_RETURN (ie, what
"Ordisrespector" does). Since this is a bugfix, it doesn't really even
need to wait for a major release.
(We already have pruning. It's not an alternative to spam filtering.)
Luke
On 5/7/23 13:22, Ali Sherief via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I think everyone on this list knows what has happened to the Bitcoin
> mempool during the past 96 hours. Due to side projects such as BRC-20
> having such a high volume, real bitcoin transactions are being priced
> out and that is what is causing the massive congestion that has
> arguable not been seen since December 2017. I do not count the March
> 2021 congestion because that was only with 1-5sat/vbyte.
>
> Such justifiably worthless ("worthless" is not even my word - that's
> how its creator described them[1]) tokens threaten the smooth and
> normal use of the Bitcoin network as a peer-to-pear digital currency,
> as it was intended to be used as.
>
> If the volume does not die down over the next few weeks, should we
> take an action? The bitcoin network is a triumvirate of developers,
> miners, and users. Considering that miners are largely the entities at
> fault for allowing the system to be abused like this, the harmony of
> Bitcoin transactions is being disrupted right now. Although this
> community has a strong history of not putting its fingers into pies
> unless absolutely necessary - an example being during the block size
> wars and Segwit - should similar action be taken now, in the form of
> i) BIPs and/or ii) commits into the Bitcoin Core codebase, to curtail
> the loophole in BIP 342 (which defines the validation rules for
> Taproot scripts) which has allowed these unintended consequences?
>
> An alternative would be to enforce this "censorship" at the node level
> and introduce a run-time option to instantly prune all non-standard
> Taproot transactions. This will be easier to implement, but won't hit
> the road until minimum next release.
>
> I know that some people will have their criticisms about this,
> absolutists/libertarians/maximum-freedom advocates, which is fine, but
> we need to find a solution for this that fits everyone's common
> ground. We indirectly allowed this to happen, which previously wasn't
> possible before. So we also have a responsibility to do something to
> ensure that this kind of congestion can never happen again using Taproot.
>
> -Ali
>
> ---
>
> [1]:
> https://www.coindesk.com/consensus-magazine/2023/05/05/pump-the-brcs-the-promise-and-peril-of-bitcoin-backed-tokens/
> <https://www.coindesk.com/consensus-magazine/2023/05/05/pump-the-brcs-the-promise-and-peril-of-bitcoin-backed-tokens/?outputType=amp>
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<p>Action should have been taken months ago. Spam filtration has
been a standard part of Bitcoin Core since day 1. It's a mistake
that the existing filters weren't extended to Taproot
transactions. We can address that, or try a more narrow approach
like OP_RETURN (ie, what "Ordisrespector" does). Since this is a
bugfix, it doesn't really even need to wait for a major release.<br>
</p>
<p>(We already have pruning. It's not an alternative to spam
filtering.)</p>
<p>Luke</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/7/23 13:22, Ali Sherief via
bitcoin-dev wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:Lm_5F74G9G21ydrFPovvmtHWpNXcbVzZibmU80oNqFRehJjcll89-t7OXqS5Fooe0cTNxGreIREMql3Li2xUCe2T5NVyss3-CrLzISO09HY=@notatether.com">
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<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Hi
guys,</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">I
think everyone on this list knows what has happened to the
Bitcoin mempool during the past 96 hours. Due to side projects
such as BRC-20 having such a high volume, real bitcoin
transactions are being priced out and that is what is causing
the massive congestion that has arguable not been seen since
December 2017. I do not count the March 2021 congestion because
that was only with 1-5sat/vbyte.</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Such
justifiably worthless ("worthless" is not even my word - that's
how its creator described them[1]) tokens threaten the smooth
and normal use of the Bitcoin network as a peer-to-pear digital
currency, as it was intended to be used as.</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">If
the volume does not die down over the next few weeks, should we
take an action? The bitcoin network is a triumvirate of
developers, miners, and users. Considering that miners are
largely the entities at fault for allowing the system to be
abused like this, the harmony of Bitcoin transactions is being
disrupted right now. Although this community has a strong
history of not putting its fingers into pies unless absolutely
necessary - an example being during the block size wars and
Segwit - should similar action be taken now, in the form of i)
BIPs and/or ii) commits into the Bitcoin Core codebase, to
curtail the loophole in BIP 342 (which defines the validation
rules for Taproot scripts) which has allowed these unintended
consequences?</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">An
alternative would be to enforce this "censorship" at the node
level and introduce a run-time option to instantly prune all
non-standard Taproot transactions. This will be easier to
implement, but won't hit the road until minimum next release.</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">I
know that some people will have their criticisms about this,
absolutists/libertarians/maximum-freedom advocates, which is
fine, but we need to find a solution for this that fits
everyone's common ground. We indirectly allowed this to happen,
which previously wasn't possible before. So we also have a
responsibility to do something to ensure that this kind of
congestion can never happen again using Taproot.</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">-Ali</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">---</div>
<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br>
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<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">[1]: <span><a
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.coindesk.com/consensus-magazine/2023/05/05/pump-the-brcs-the-promise-and-peril-of-bitcoin-backed-tokens/</a></span></div>
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