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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] have there been complains about network
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only that in the real world most routers suck and people don't even know
how to configure them (reminds me of the convo about people not installing
plugins)
this is why the wheel had to be reinvented for the bittorrent world, and it
works.

http://twitter.com/gubatron


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Matt Whitlock <bip@mattwhitlock.name>wrote=
:

> On Tuesday, 8 April 2014, at 12:13 pm, Angel Leon wrote:
> > I was wondering if we have or expect to have these issues in the future=
,
> > perhaps uTP could help greatly the performance of the entire network at
> > some point.
>
> Or people could simply learn to configure their routers correctly. The
> only time I ever notice that Bitcoind is saturating my upstream link is
> when I try to transfer a file using SCP from a computer on my home networ=
k
> to a computer out on the Internet somewhere. SCP sets the "maximize
> throughput" flag in the IP "type of service" field, and my router
> interprets that as meaning low priority, and so those SCP transfers get
> stalled behind Bitcoind. But mostly everything else (e.g., email, web
> browsing, instant messaging, SSH) shows no degration whatsoever regardles=
s
> of what Bitcoind is doing. The key is to move the packet queue from the
> cable modem into the router, where intelligent decisions about packet
> priority and reordering can be enacted.
>
> =B5TP pretty much reinvents the wheel, and it does so in userspace, where
> the overhead is greater. There's no need for it if proper QoS is in effec=
t.
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">only that in the real world most routers suck and people d=
on&#39;t even know how to configure them (reminds me of the convo about peo=
ple not installing plugins)<div>this is why the wheel had to be reinvented =
for the bittorrent world, and it works.</div>

</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><a href=3D"http://t=
witter.com/gubatron" target=3D"_blank">http://twitter.com/gubatron</a><br><=
/div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Matt Wh=
itlock <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bip@mattwhitlock.name" targe=
t=3D"_blank">bip@mattwhitlock.name</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"">On Tuesday, 8 April 2014, at 12:13 pm, Angel Leon wrote:<br=
>
&gt; I was wondering if we have or expect to have these issues in the futur=
e,<br>
&gt; perhaps uTP could help greatly the performance of the entire network a=
t<br>
&gt; some point.<br>
<br>
</div>Or people could simply learn to configure their routers correctly. Th=
e only time I ever notice that Bitcoind is saturating my upstream link is w=
hen I try to transfer a file using SCP from a computer on my home network t=
o a computer out on the Internet somewhere. SCP sets the &quot;maximize thr=
oughput&quot; flag in the IP &quot;type of service&quot; field, and my rout=
er interprets that as meaning low priority, and so those SCP transfers get =
stalled behind Bitcoind. But mostly everything else (e.g., email, web brows=
ing, instant messaging, SSH) shows no degration whatsoever regardless of wh=
at Bitcoind is doing. The key is to move the packet queue from the cable mo=
dem into the router, where intelligent decisions about packet priority and =
reordering can be enacted.<br>


<br>
=B5TP pretty much reinvents the wheel, and it does so in userspace, where t=
he overhead is greater. There&#39;s no need for it if proper QoS is in effe=
ct.<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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