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I understand your proposal, but I don't see what it accomplishes compared
to applying the new rule from the start (in your own blocks) and wait for
95% for consensus activation (which is my preference and it's much simpler
to implement).
What are the disadvantages of my approach? What are the advantages of yours=
?
On Sep 16, 2015 4:57 PM, "Tier Nolan via bitcoin-dev" <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n <jtimon@jtimon.cc> wrot=
e:
>
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2015 4:49 PM, "Tier Nolan via bitcoin-dev" <
>> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>> > At 75%, if someone sets the bit, then they should be creating valid
>> blocks (under the rule).
>>
>> You shouldn't rely on that, some may start applying the restrictions in
>> their own blocks at 0% and others only at 90%. Until it becomes a consen=
sus
>> rule it is just part of the standard policy (and we shouldn't rely on no=
des
>> following the standard policy).
>>
>
> It would be a consensus rule.  If >75% of the blocks in the last 2016
> window have the bit set, then reject all blocks that have the bit set and
> fail to meet the rule.
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<p dir=3D"ltr">I understand your proposal, but I don&#39;t see what it acco=
mplishes compared to applying the new rule from the start (in your own bloc=
ks) and wait for 95% for consensus activation (which is my preference and i=
t&#39;s much simpler to implement).<br>
What are the disadvantages of my approach? What are the advantages of yours=
?</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 16, 2015 4:57 PM, &quot;Tier Nolan via bi=
tcoin-dev&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org=
">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attributi=
on"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Jor=
ge Tim=C3=B3n <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jtimon@jtimon.cc" tar=
get=3D"_blank">jtimon@jtimon.cc</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div><div><p dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On Sep 16, 2015 4:49 PM, &quot;Tier Nolan via bitcoin-dev&quot; &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin=
-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; At 75%, if someone sets the bit, then they should be creating valid bl=
ocks (under the rule).</p>
</div></div><p dir=3D"ltr">You shouldn&#39;t rely on that, some may start a=
pplying the restrictions in their own blocks at 0% and others only at 90%. =
Until it becomes a consensus rule it is just part of the standard policy (a=
nd we shouldn&#39;t rely on nodes following the standard policy).<span><br>=
</span></p></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It would be a consensus rule.=
=C2=A0 If &gt;75% of the blocks in the last 2016 window have the bit set, t=
hen reject all blocks that have the bit set and fail to meet the rule.<br><=
/div></div><br></div></div>
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