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From: "David A. Harding" <dave@dtrt.org>
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On 2024-05-06 09:06, Andrew Poelstra wrote:
> You can implement ECDSA. It will just take a *lot* of opcodes.

I'll accept that as a given, but how do you know that a given ECDSA 
signature actually commits to the transaction that contains it if 
OP_CHECKSIG only operates on fixed-size schnorr signatures?

Is this what you're describing: if the controlling signature is a 
lamport signature that commits to an ECDSA signature, it's safe to 
disclose the private key for the ECDSA signature; when you don't have to 
worry about private key disclosure, it's safe to construct a schnorr 
signature that uses the same private key, nonce, and message commitment 
as the ECDSA signature; if that schnorr signature makes OP_CHECKSIG 
return true, then you know the message is the current transaction?

That still leaves me confused.  If ECDSA can be implemented within 
tapscript, then I would expect that schnorr could also be implemented 
within tapscript; that gives you an OP_CSFS equivalent.  If being able 
to implement ECDSA in tapscript allows introspection, then I would 
expect implementing schnorr in tapscript would allow introspection; that 
gives you an OP_CAT equivalent.  If you have OP_CSFS and OP_CAT, you 
have covenants and there's no need for lamport signatures or ECDSA.

Apologies for my remaining confused in the face of something that's 
probably obvious,

-Dave





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