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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposed alternatives to the 20MB
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On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Raystonn . <raystonn@hotmail.com> wrote:

>   Regarding Tier=E2=80=99s proposal: The lower security you mention for e=
xtended
> blocks would delay, possibly forever, the larger blocks maximum block siz=
e
> that we want for the entire network.  That doesn=E2=80=99t sound like an =
optimal
> solution.
>

I don't think so.  The lower security is the potential centralisation
risk.  If you have your money in the "root" chain, then you can watch it.
You can probably also watch it in a 20MB chain.

Full nodes would still verify the entire block (root + extended).  It is a
"nuclear option", since you can make any changes you want to the rules for
the extended chain.  The only safe guard is that people have to voluntarly
transfer coins to the extended block.

The extended block might have 10-15% of the total bitcoins, but still be
useful, since they would be the ones that move the most.  If you want to
store your coins long term, you move them back to the root block where you
can watch them more closely.

It does make things more complex though.  Wallets would have to list 2
balances.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On F=
ri, May 29, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Raystonn . <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:raystonn@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">raystonn@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Arial&#39;;COLOR:#000000">
<div>Regarding Tier=E2=80=99s proposal: The lower security you mention for =
extended=20
blocks would delay, possibly forever, the larger blocks maximum block size =
that=20
we want for the entire network.=C2=A0 That doesn=E2=80=99t sound like an op=
timal=20
solution.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don&#39=
;t think so.=C2=A0 The lower security is the potential centralisation risk.=
=C2=A0 If you have your money in the &quot;root&quot; chain, then you can w=
atch it.=C2=A0 You can probably also watch it in a 20MB chain.<br><br></div=
><div>Full nodes would still verify the entire block (root + extended).=C2=
=A0 It is a &quot;nuclear option&quot;, since you can make any changes you =
want to the rules for the extended chain.=C2=A0 The only safe guard is that=
 people have to voluntarly transfer coins to the extended block.<br><br></d=
iv><div>The extended block might have 10-15% of the total bitcoins, but sti=
ll be useful, since they would be the ones that move the most.=C2=A0 If you=
 want to store your coins long term, you move them back to the root block w=
here you can watch them more closely.<br><br></div><div>It does make things=
 more complex though.=C2=A0 Wallets would have to list 2 balances.<br></div=
></div></div></div>

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