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Subject: [bitcoin-dev] 1 Year bitcoin-dev Moderation Review
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Hi bitcoin-dev,

I'm well aware that discussion of moderation on bitcoin-dev is
discouraged*. However, I think that we should, as a year of moderation
approaches, discuss openly as a community what the impact of such policy
has been. Making such a post now is timely given that people will have the
opportunity to discuss in-person as well as online as Scaling Bitcoin is
currently underway. On the suggestion of others, I've also CC'd
bitcoin-discuss on this message.

Below, I'll share some of my own personal thoughts as a starter, but would
love to hear others feelings as well.

For me, the bitcoin-dev mailing list was a place where I started
frequenting to learn a lot about bitcoin and the development process and
interact with the community. Since moderation has begun, it seems that the
messages/day has dropped drastically. This may be a nice outcome overall
for our sanity, but I think that it has on the whole made the community
less accessible. I've heard from people (a > 1 number, myself included)
that they now self-censor because they think they will put a lot of work
into their email only for it to get moderated away as trolling/spam. Thus,
while we may not observe a high rate of moderated posts, it does mean the
"chilling effect" of moderation still manifests -- I think that people not
writing emails because they think it may be moderated reduces the rate of
people writing emails which is a generally valuable thing as it offers
people a vehicle through which they try to think through and communicate
their ideas in detail.

Overall, I think that at the time that moderation was added to the list, it
was probably the right thing to do. We're in a different place as a
community now, so I feel we should attempt to open up this valuable
communication channel once again. My sentiment is that we enacted
moderation to protect a resource that we all felt was valuable, but in the
process, the value of the list was damaged, but not irreparably so.

Best,

Jeremy


* From the email introducing the bitcoin-dev moderation policy, "Generally
discouraged: shower thoughts, wild speculation, jokes, +1s, non-technical
bitcoin issues, rehashing settled topics without new data, moderation
 concerns."


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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
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0,0)">I&#39;m well aware that discussion of moderation on bitcoin-dev is di=
scouraged*. However, I think that we should, as a year of moderation approa=
ches, discuss openly as a community what the impact of such policy has been=
. Making such a post now is timely given that people will have the opportun=
ity to discuss in-person as well as online as Scaling Bitcoin is currently =
underway. On the suggestion of others, I&#39;ve also CC&#39;d bitcoin-discu=
ss on this message.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div=
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nt-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Below, I&#39;ll share some of my own person=
al thoughts as a starter, but would love to hear others feelings as well.</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:r=
gb(0,0,0)">For me, the bitcoin-dev mailing list was a place where I started=
 frequenting to learn a lot about bitcoin and the development process and i=
nteract with the community. Since moderation has begun, it seems that the m=
essages/day has dropped drastically. This may be a nice outcome overall for=
 our sanity, but I think that it has on the whole made the community less a=
ccessible. I&#39;ve heard from people (a &gt; 1 number, myself included) th=
at they now self-censor because they think they will put a lot of work into=
 their email only for it to get moderated away as trolling/spam. Thus, whil=
e we may not observe a high rate of moderated posts, it does mean the &quot=
;chilling effect&quot; of moderation still manifests -- I think that people=
 not writing emails because they think it may be moderated reduces the rate=
 of people writing emails which is a generally valuable thing as it offers =
people a vehicle through which they try to think through and communicate th=
eir ideas in detail.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Overall, I think that at the time that mod=
eration was added to the list, it was probably the right thing to do. We&#3=
9;re in a different place as a community now, so I feel we should attempt t=
o open up this valuable communication channel once again. My sentiment is t=
hat we enacted moderation to protect a resource that we all felt was valuab=
le, but in the process, the value of the list was damaged, but not irrepara=
bly so.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvet=
ica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:smal=
l;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Best,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f=
amily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-se=
rif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Jeremy</div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:r=
gb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:aria=
l,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">* From the email introducing the bitcoin-dev mo=
deration policy, &quot;<span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans=
-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Generally discouraged: shower thoughts, wild sp=
eculation, jokes, +1s,=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:13px;font-famil=
y:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">non-technical bitcoin issues, rehas=
hing settled topics without new=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:aria=
l,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34)">data,=C2=A0</span><span cl=
ass=3D"gmail-il" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color=
:rgb(34,34,34)">moderation</span><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-seri=
f;font-size:13px;color:rgb(34,34,34)">=C2=A0concerns.&quot;</span></div><di=
v><br></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">--<br><a href=3D"https://twitter.com/JeremyRubin" target=3D"_blank=
">@JeremyRubin</a><a href=3D"https://twitter.com/JeremyRubin" target=3D"_bl=
ank"></a></div></div></div>
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