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Too technical if you ask me. We want a webpage for the dumbest end-user 
I think.

Java? C? What the heck is this? Blockchain? Qt?

Regards,
Raphael

On 05/02/2012 09:34 PM, Gary Rowe wrote:
> How about keeping it simple?
>
> Bitcoin-Qt
> * Requires the entire blockchain
> * Standalone client
> * Designed for continuous operation
> * Available for Windows, Mac, Linux with installer
> * Developed in C
> * Website: https://bitcoin.org
>
> MultiBit
> * Requires a reduced blockchain
> * Standalone client
> * Designed for occasional use
> * Available for Windows, Mac, Linux with installer
> * Developed in Java
> * Website: http://multibit.org
>
> Armory
> * Requires the entire blockchain
> * Dependent client of Bitcoin-Qt
> * Designed for occasional use
> * Available for Windows (64-bit only), Mac, Linux (self-build)
> * Developed in Python
> * Website: http://bitcoinarmory.com/
>
> Electrum
> * Requires no blockchain
> * Dependent client of Bitcoin-Qt (on server)
> * Designed for occasional use
> * Available for Windows, Linux (self-build)
> * Developed in Python
> * Website: http://ecdsa.org/electrum/
>
> Bitcoin Wallet (Android client)
> * Requires a reduced blockchain
> * Standalone client
> * Designed for occasional use on mobile
> * Available for Android only
> * Developed in Java
> * Website: 
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet&hl=en 
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet&hl=en>
>
>
> On 2 May 2012 20:25, Amir Taaki <zgenjix@yahoo.com 
> <mailto:zgenjix@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>     This is like the most annoying thing about email. Often with group
>     emails, we'll be having a conversation then someone will click
>     reply instead of group reply and the convo will go on for a while.
>     Eventually I'll realise the persons are missing and add them back in.
>
>     On Yahoo mail (which I use for spam/mailing lists), to do reply
>     all involves clicking a tab, scrolling down and clicking Reply
>     All. Normally I instead go through the steps of reply, delete To,
>     re-enter bitco... select drop down, click send.
>
>     Anyone know how to make reply all the default in mutt? And how can
>     I exclude it from re-including my own email when I do a group
>     reply so I don't get the same email again.
>
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@exmulti.com <mailto:jgarzik@exmulti.com>>
>     To: grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com <mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com>>
>     Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
>     <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
>     Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:29 PM
>     Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org
>     <http://bitcoin.org> clients page
>
>     On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com
>     <mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >> Try "Reply to All"
>     >
>     > That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc',
>     > which dupes to the sender and eventually
>     > blows out the to and cc lines as everyone
>     > chimes in and doesn't trim. 'reply to' solves
>     > most of that. assuming the list sw can do it.
>
>     "Reply-To" Munging Considered Harmful
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    Too technical if you ask me. We want a webpage for the dumbest
    end-user I think.<br>
    <br>
    Java? C? What the heck is this? Blockchain? Qt?<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Raphael<br>
    <br>
    On 05/02/2012 09:34 PM, Gary Rowe wrote:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAKm8k+0pxiKvRp8BokQ+dt-3Ttu7KsdichSqav8qZiv_p6coFQ@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div>How about keeping it simple?</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Bitcoin-Qt</div>
      <div>* Requires the entire blockchain</div>
      <div>* Standalone client</div>
      <div>* Designed for continuous operation</div>
      <div>* Available for Windows, Mac, Linux with installer</div>
      <div>* Developed in C</div>
      <div>* Website: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="https://bitcoin.org">https://bitcoin.org</a></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>MultiBit</div>
      <div>* Requires a reduced blockchain&nbsp;</div>
      <div>* Standalone client</div>
      <div>* Designed for occasional use</div>
      <div>* Available for Windows, Mac, Linux with installer</div>
      <div>* Developed in Java &nbsp;</div>
      <div>* Website: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://multibit.org">http://multibit.org</a></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Armory</div>
      <div>* Requires the entire blockchain</div>
      <div>* Dependent client of Bitcoin-Qt&nbsp;</div>
      <div>* Designed for occasional use</div>
      <div>* Available for Windows (64-bit only), Mac, Linux
        (self-build)</div>
      <div>* Developed in Python</div>
      <div>* Website: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://bitcoinarmory.com/">http://bitcoinarmory.com/</a></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Electrum</div>
      <div>* Requires no blockchain</div>
      <div>* Dependent client of Bitcoin-Qt (on server)</div>
      <div>* Designed for occasional use</div>
      <div>* Available for Windows, Linux (self-build)</div>
      <div>
        * Developed in Python</div>
      <div>* Website: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://ecdsa.org/electrum/">http://ecdsa.org/electrum/</a></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Bitcoin Wallet (Android client)</div>
      <div>* Requires a reduced blockchain</div>
      <div>* Standalone client</div>
      <div>* Designed for occasional use on mobile</div>
      <div>* Available for Android only</div>
      <div>* Developed in Java</div>
      <div>* Website: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet&amp;hl=en">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet&amp;hl=en</a></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On 2 May 2012 20:25, Amir Taaki <span
          dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:zgenjix@yahoo.com" target="_blank">zgenjix@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          This is like the most annoying thing about email. Often with
          group emails, we'll be having a conversation then someone will
          click reply instead of group reply and the convo will go on
          for a while. Eventually I'll realise the persons are missing
          and add them back in.<br>
          <br>
          On Yahoo mail (which I use for spam/mailing lists), to do
          reply all involves clicking a tab, scrolling down and clicking
          Reply All. Normally I instead go through the steps of reply,
          delete To, re-enter bitco... select drop down, click send.<br>
          <br>
          Anyone know how to make reply all the default in mutt? And how
          can I exclude it from re-including my own email when I do a
          group reply so I don't get the same email again.<br>
          <div class="im HOEnZb"><br>
            <br>
            <br>
            ----- Original Message -----<br>
            From: Jeff Garzik &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:jgarzik@exmulti.com">jgarzik@exmulti.com</a>&gt;<br>
            To: grarpamp &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com">grarpamp@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
            Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net">bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net</a><br>
            Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:29 PM<br>
            Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new <a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bitcoin.org"
              target="_blank">bitcoin.org</a> clients page<br>
            <br>
          </div>
          <div class="HOEnZb">
            <div class="h5">On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp
              &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com">grarpamp@gmail.com</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
              &gt;&gt; Try "Reply to All"<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc',<br>
              &gt; which dupes to the sender and eventually<br>
              &gt; blows out the to and cc lines as everyone<br>
              &gt; chimes in and doesn't trim. 'reply to' solves<br>
              &gt; most of that. assuming the list sw can do it.<br>
              <br>
              "Reply-To" Munging Considered Harmful<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html"
                target="_blank">http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html</a><br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              --<br>
              Jeff Garzik<br>
              exMULTI, Inc.<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:jgarzik@exmulti.com">jgarzik@exmulti.com</a><br>
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