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>
> These sorts of proposals are all just ways of saying block chains kind of
> suck and we should go back to using trusted third parties.
>

No.
Different approaches have different trade-offs, and thus different areas of
applicability.

Proof-of-work's inherent disadvantage is that it takes some time until
transaction becomes practically irreversible. On the other hand, it has
advantages like neutrality, censorship-resistance, high degree of security,
etc.

TTP can be very efficient, but doesn't have advantages mentioned above.

It is possible to combine several different approaches into one hybrid
systems. For example, classic Bitcoin PoW blockchain can be used for
settlements, large transactions, savings and so on. While TTP-based payment
system will be used for small-value transaction like buying coffee.

In this case you get benefits of both approaches. Censorship-resistance is
irrelevant when one buys a cup of coffee with his pocket money, isn't it?

For some reason, instead of considering these hybrid solutions (which can
also address scalability problems), you want to make PoW-based system more
complex to be applicable for real-time transaction too.

This will, likely, weaken advantages provided by PoW, and also it won't
provide any hard guarantees, and, if implemented, will undermine
development of alternative solutions.

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/div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No.</div><div>Different a=
pproaches have different trade-offs, and thus different areas of applicabil=
ity.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Proof-of-work&#39;s inherent disadvantage is that=
 it takes some time until transaction becomes practically irreversible. On =
the other hand, it has advantages like neutrality, censorship-resistance, h=
igh degree of security, etc.</div>
<div><br></div><div>TTP can be very efficient, but doesn&#39;t have advanta=
ges mentioned above.</div><div><br></div><div>It is possible to combine sev=
eral different approaches into one hybrid systems. For example, classic Bit=
coin PoW blockchain can be used for settlements, large transactions, saving=
s and so on. While TTP-based payment system will be used for small-value tr=
ansaction like buying coffee.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In this case you get benefits of both approaches. Censo=
rship-resistance is irrelevant when one buys a cup of coffee with his pocke=
t money, isn&#39;t it?</div><div><br></div><div>For some reason, instead of=
 considering these hybrid solutions (which can also address scalability pro=
blems), you want to make PoW-based system more complex to be applicable for=
 real-time transaction too.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This will, likely, weaken advantages provided by PoW, a=
nd also it won&#39;t provide any hard guarantees, and, if implemented, will=
 undermine development of alternative solutions.</div><div><br></div></div>
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