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Do it. Someone will scream harm. The loudest voices screaming how it woul=
d
be harmful are doing the most harm.
The only way to know is build it, and test it. If the network breaks, the=
n
it is better we find out sooner rather than later.
My only suggestion is call it 'bitstake' or something to clearly differen=
tiate
it from Bitcoin. This also might be an interesting application of the sid=
e
chains concept Peter Todd has discussed.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 04:32:15PM -0700, Stephen Reed wrote:
> Hello all.
>=20
> I understand that Proof-of-Stake as a replacement for Proof-of-Work is =
a prohibited yet disputed change to Bitcoin Core. I would like to create =
a Bitcoin branch that provides a sandboxed testbed for researching the be=
st PoS implementations. In the years to come, perhaps circumstances might =
arise, such as shifting of user opinion as to whether PoS should be moved =
from the prohibited list to the hard-fork list.
> -----
>=20
> A poll I conducted today on bitcointalk,=A0https://bitcointalk.org/inde=
x.php?topic=3D581635.0=A0with an attention-grabbing title suggests some m=
inority support for Bitcoin Proof-of-Stake. I invite any of you to critic=
ally comment on that thread.
>=20
> "Annual 10% bitcoin dividends can be ours if Proof-of-Stake full nodes =
outnumber existing Proof-of-Work full nodes by three-to-one. What is your =
choice?"
>=20
> "I do not care or do not know enough." - 5 (16.1%)=A0
> "I would download and run the existing Proof-of-Work program to fight t=
he change." - 14 (45.2%)=A0
> "I would download and run the new Proof-of-Stake program to favor the c=
hange. " - 12 (38.7%)=A0
> Total Voters: 31=20
> -----
>=20
> Before I branch the source code and learn the proper way of doing thing=
s in this community, I ask you simply if creating the branch is harmful? =
My goal is to develop, test and document PoS, while exploring its vulnera=
bilities and fixing them in a transparent fashion.
>=20
> Thanks for taking a bit of your time to read this message.
--=20
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Troy Benjegerdes 'da hozer' hozer@hozed.=
org
7 elements earth::water::air::fire::mind::spirit::soul grid.c=
oop
Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel,
nor try buy a hacker who makes money by the megahash
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