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On Thursday, 22 September 2016 14:26:18 CEST Peter Todd wrote:
> > =ABThe way towards that flexibility is to use a generic concept made
> > popular various decades ago with the XML format. The idea is that we
> > give each field a name and this means that new fields can be added or
> > optional fields can be omitted from individual transactions=BB
>=20
> That argument is not applicable to required fields:=20

The argument that optional fields can be omitted is not applicable to=20
required fields, you are correct. That should be rather obvious because=20
required fields are not optional fields.

> the code to get the
> fields from the extensible format is every bit as complex as the very
> simple code required to deserialize/serialize objects in the current
> system.

Probably a tiny bit more complex as the current format assumes a lot more.

You may have misread my email because there was no argument made towards=20
complexity. The argument was towards flexibility.

> In any case your BIP needs to give some explicit examples of hypothetical
> upgrades in the future, how they'd take advantage of this, and what the
> code to do so would look like.

Why?

> > > Also, if you're going to break compatibility with all existing
> > > software, it makes sense to use a format that extends the merkle
> > > tree down into the transaction inputs and outputs.
> >=20
> > Please argue your case.
>=20
> See my arguments re: segwit a few months ago, e.g. the hardware wallet
> txin proof use-case.

Please consider that I'm not going to search for something based on a vague=
=20
reference like that, if you want to convince me you could you at least=20
provide a URL?
You want me to see the value of your idea, I think you should at least=20
provide the argument. Isn't that fair?

Thanks for your email Peter, would love you to put a bit more time into=20
understanding flexible transactions and we can have a proper discussion=20
about it.