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Hi Suhas/Gloria,
Good questions. I've started a new thread because it became something =
else...
Various ideas about packaging seem to be focused on the idea of an =
atomic message that is gossiped around the network like a transaction or =
block. From my perspective that seems to create a set of problems =
without good solutions, and it is not a proper analogy to those atomic =
structures. It may be worth taking the time to step back and take a =
close look at the underlying objective.
The sole objective, as expressed in the OP proposal, is to:
"Propagate transactions that are incentive-compatible to mine, even if =
they don't meet minimum feerate alone."
Effectively producing this outcome with an atomic packaging approach =
while at the same time maintaining network invariants seems unlikely, if =
not impossible.
Fees:
A node knows what fee rate a peer will accept, and announces individual =
txs that satisfy peer.feerate. Similarly a node knows its own feerate, =
and SHOULD drop any peer that announces txs that do not satisfy =
node.feerate.
Orphans:
A node MAY drop a peer that announces txs that the node sees as orphans =
against its DAG. It SHOULD drop the orphan tx and MAY request missing =
ancestors. Presumably after some amount of time connected to peer, node =
does not expect to see any more orphans from that peer, so these choices =
could evolve with the channel. However, the design that can only =
consider each tx in isolation will continue to cause orphan =
announcements on the channel. A below peer.feerate tx does not get =
announced to peer, and later a descendant high peer.feerate does get =
announced to the peer - as an orphan.
BIP133 (feefilter):
"There could be a small number of edge cases where a node's mempool min =
fee is actually less than the filter value a peer is aware of and =
transactions with fee rates between these values will now be newly =
inhibited."
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0133.mediawiki
Whether the problem is "small" or not depends on the disparity between =
node fee rates, which is not a matter of protocol. This is an existing =
problem that can and should be dealt with in packaging, as part of the =
above objective.=20
Packaged Transaction Relay:
One might instead think of packaging as a per-connection function, =
operating over its transaction (input->output) DAG and the feerate of =
its own node and that of the peer. Logically a "package" is nothing more =
than a set of transactions (optimized by announcement). Only a node can =
effectively determine the packaging required by each of its peers, since =
only the node is aware of peer.feerate.
The only way to avoid dead-ending packages (including individual =
transactions, as is the objective) is for a node to package txs for each =
peer. The origination of any package is then just a wallet peer doing =
what a node does - packaging transactions that satisfy peer.feerate =
(i.e. that of its node).
Current transaction relay (txB->txA):
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Node0
txA.feerate > node.feerate, and not orphaned (accept txA)
txA.feerate > peer1.feerate (announce txA to peer1)
txA.feerate < peer2.feerate (do not announce txA to peer2)
-----
txB.feerate > node.feerate (accept txB)
txB.feerate > peer1.feerate (announce txB to peer1)
txB.feerate > peer2.feerate (announce txB to peer2)
Node1
Sees/accepts txA and txB.
Node2
Never sees txA, sees/rejects txB (as an orphan).
Packaged transaction relay (txB->txA):
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Node0
txA.feerate > node.feerate, and not orphaned (accept txA)
txA.feerate > peer1.feerate (announce txA to peer1)
txA.feerate < peer2.feerate (do not announce txA to peer2)
-----
txB.feerate > node1.feerate (accept txB)
txB.feerate > peer1.feerate (announce txB to peer1)
txB.feerate > peer2.feerate (do not announce txB to peer2) <=3D=3D avoid =
predictable orphan
txA.feerate + txB.feerate > peer2.feerate (announce pkg(A, B) to peer2) =
<=3D create minimal package
Node1
Sees/accepts txA and txB.
Node2
pkg(A, B) > node2.feerate (accept txA, txB)
txA.feerate > peer3.feerate (announce txA to peer3)
txB.feerate > peer3.feerate (announce txB to peer3)
Sees/accepts pkg(A, B).
Node3
Sees/accepts txA and txB. <=3D avoided unnecessary packaging
Summary:
In this design, any node that receives an announcement for a pkg (or tx) =
later determined to be less than node.feerate SHOULD drop the announcing =
peer. Unlike with existing tx relay, a node can become "current" and =
subsequently see few if any tx or pkg orphans, and MAY at some point =
decide to drop any peer that announces one. Notice that packages are =
created dynamically, and any package that doesn't need to be grouped =
gets trimmed down to individual transactions. Furthermore any tx that is =
"stuck" can be freed by simply sending another tx. The nodes at which =
the tx has become stuck will just package it up and relay it to peers. =
In other words, there is no impact on wallet implementation apart from =
raising the aggregate fee using a descendant transaction.
This is barely a protocol change - it's primarily implementation. All =
that should be required is an additional INV element type, such as =
MSG_TX_PACKAGE.
Additional constraints:
* All elements of MSG_TX_PACKAGE in one INV message MUST to be of the =
same package.
* A package MUST must define a set that can be mined into one block =
(size/sigops constraint).
* A package SHOULD not contain confirmed txs (a race may cause this).
* A package MUST minimally satisfy peer.feerate.
* A partial tx order, as in the manner of the block.txs ordering, MUST =
be imposed.
* A node SHOULD drop a peer that sends a package (or tx) below =
node.feerate.
* A node MAY drop a peer that sends a non-minimal package according to =
node.feerate.
The partial ordering of block.txs introduces an ordering constraint that =
precludes full parallelism in validating input attachment. This is an =
implementation artifact that made its way into consensus. However in the =
case of packaging, the set of txs is not presumed to be valid under the =
proof of work DoS guard. As such constraints should minimize the =
work/traffic required to invalidate the message. The partial order =
constraint ensures that the DAG can be built incrementally, dropping the =
attempt (and peer as desired) as soon as the first orphan is discovered. =
As a result the network traffic and work required is not materially =
different than with tx relay, with two exceptions.
These are the two central aspects of this approach (Avoiding Predictable =
Orphans and Creating Minimal Packages). These are graph search =
algorithms, some basic computer science. Minimality requires only that =
the package does not introduce txs that are not necessary to reach the =
peer.feerate (as these can always be packaged separately). It does not =
require that nodes all generate the same packages. It does not require =
negotiation, package identity, cryptography, or hashing. As a graph =
search it should be O(n) where n is the unconfirmed ancestry of the =
package, but should typically be much lower, if not a single step.
Sufficiently-low-fee nodes will see only single txs. Moderate-fee nodes =
may cause partial breakup of packages. Sufficiently high fee nodes will =
cause peers (having received and completed the acceptance of a tx/pkg =
with pkg.feerate < peer.feerate) to navigate from each tx/package =
external input until reaching txs above peer.feerate, or confirmed (both =
of which the peer is presumed to already have). If the pkg.feerate is =
sufficiently high to connect all external inputs to the intervening txs, =
they are added to the package and it is announced to the high fee peer. =
Note that the individual tx.feerate > peer.feerate is insufficient to =
ensure that the peer should have the tx, as there may be ancestor txs =
that do not, and for which the tx was insufficient to cause them to be =
packaged. So a non-caching algorithm must be able to chase each package =
external input to a confirmed tx (or cache the unconfirmed ancestry fee =
rate at each tx). Note that fee rates are not directly additive, both =
size/weight and fee are required for summation (and aggregate sigops =
should be considered).
This makes no assumptions about current implementations. The design =
would call for maintenance of a transaction (input->output) DAG with =
tx.feerate on each tx. This could be the unconfirmed tx graph (i.e. =
"memory pool") though it does not require maintenance of anything more =
than the parameters necessary to confirm a set of validated txs within a =
block. It is very reasonable to require this of any participating node. =
A simple version negotiation can identify a package-accepting/sending =
nodes.
I have thought about this for some time, but have not implemented either =
the graph search, source code, or BIP. Just wrote this off the top of my =
head. So I am sure there are some things I have incorrect or failed to =
consider. But I think it's worth discussing it at this point.
e
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org> On
> Behalf Of Suhas Daftuar via bitcoin-dev
> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2022 8:59 AM
> To: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion =
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Package Relay Proposal
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> Thanks again for your work on this!
>=20
> One question I have is about potential bandwidth waste in the case of =
nodes
> running with different policy rules. Here's my understanding of a =
scenario I
> think could happen:
>=20
> 1) Transaction A is both low-fee and non-standard to some nodes on the
> network.
> 2) Whenever a transaction T that spends A is relayed, new nodes will =
send
> INV(PKGINFO1, T) to all package-relay peers.
> 3) Nodes on the network that have implemented package relay, but do =
not
> accept A, will send getdata(PKGINFO1, T) and learn all of T's =
unconfirmed
> parents (~32 bytes * number of parents(T)).
> 4) Such nodes will reject T. But because of transaction malleability, =
and to
> avoid being blinded to a transaction unnecessarily, these nodes will =
likely still
> send getdata(PKGINFO1, T) to every node that announces T, in case
> someone has a transaction that includes an alternate set of parent
> transactions that would pass policy checks.
>=20
> Is that understanding correct? I think a good design goal would be to =
not
> waste bandwidth in non-adversarial situations. In this case, there =
would be
> bandwidth waste from downloading duplicate data from all your peers, =
just
> because the announcement doesn't commit to the set of parent wtxids =
that
> we'd get from the peer (and so we are unable to determine that all our =
peers
> would be telling us the same thing, just based on the announcement).
>=20
> Some ways to mitigate this might be to: (a) include a hash (maybe even =
just a
> 20-byte hash -- is that enough security?) of the package wtxids (in =
some
> canonical ordering) along with the wtxid of the child in the initial
> announcement; (b) limit the use of v1 packages to transactions with =
very few
> parents (I don't know if this is reasonable for the use cases we have =
in mind).
>=20
> Another point I wanted to bring up is about the rules around v1 =
package
> validation generally, and the use of a blockhash in transaction relay
> specifically. My first observation is that it won't always be the =
case that a v1
> package relay node will be able to validate that a set of package =
transactions
> is fully sorted topologically, because there may be (non-parent) =
ancestors
> that are missing from the package and the best a peer can validate is
> topology within the package -- this means that a peer can validly =
(under this
> BIP) relay transaction packages out of the true topological sort (if =
all
> ancestors were included).
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> This makes me wonder how useful this topological rule is. I suppose =
there is
> some value in preventing completely broken implementations from =
staying
> connected and so there is no harm in having the rule, but perhaps it =
would
> be helpful to add that nodes SHOULD order transactions based on =
topological
> sort in the complete transaction graph, so that if =
missing-from-package
> ancestors are already known by a peer (which is the expected case when
> using v1 package relay on transactions that have more than one =
generation
> of unconfirmed ancestor) then the remaining transactions are already
> properly ordered, and this is helpful even if unenforceable in =
general.
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> The other observation I wanted to make was that having transaction =
relay
> gated on whether two nodes agree on chain tip seems like an overly
> restrictive criteria. I think an important design principle is that =
we want to
> minimize disruption from network splits -- if there are competing =
blocks
> found in a small window of time, it's likely that the utxo set is not =
materially
> different on the two chains (assuming miners are selecting from =
roughly the
> same sets of transactions when this happens, which is typical). =
Having
> transaction relay bifurcate on the two network halves would seem to
> exacerbate the difference between the two sides of the split -- users =
ought
> to be agnostic about how benign splits are resolved and would likely =
want
> their transactions to relay across the whole network.
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> Additionally, use of a chain tip might impose a larger burden than is =
necessary
> on software that would seek to participate in transaction relay =
without
> implementing headers sync/validation. I don't know what software =
exists on
> the network, but I imagine there are a lot of scripts out there for =
transaction
> submission to the public p2p network, and in thinking about modifying =
such a
> script to utilize package relay it seems like an unnecessary added =
burden to
> first learn a node's tip before trying to relay a transaction.
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> Could you explain again what the benefit of including the blockhash =
is? It
> seems like it is just so that a node could prioritize transaction =
relay from
> peers with the same chain tip to maximize the likelihood of =
transaction
> acceptance, but in the common case this seems like a pretty negligible
> concern, and in the case of a chain fork that persists for many =
minutes it
> seems better to me that we not partition the network into =
package-relay
> regimes and just risk a little extra bandwidth in one direction or the =
other. If
> we solve the problem I brought up at the beginning (of de-duplicating
> package data across peers with a package-wtxid-commitment in the
> announcement), I think this is just some wasted pkginfo bandwidth on a
> single-link, and not across links (as we could cache validation =
failure for a
> package-hash to avoid re-requesting duplicate pkginfo1 messages).
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> Best,
> Suhas
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> On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 1:57 PM Gloria Zhao via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-
> dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org <mailto:bitcoin-
> dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> > wrote:
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> Hi Eric, aj, all,
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> Sorry for the delayed response. @aj I'm including some paraphrased
> points from our offline discussion (thanks).
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> > Other idea: what if you encode the parent txs as a short hash of =
the
> wtxid (something like bip152 short ids? perhaps seeded per peer so =
collisions
> will be different per peer?) and include that in the inv announcement?
> Would that work to avoid a round trip almost all of the time, while =
still giving
> you enough info to save bw by deduping parents?
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> > As I suggested earlier, a package is fundamentally a compact block
> (or
> > block) announcement without the header. Compact block (BIP152)
> announcement
> > is already well-defined and widely implemented...
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> > Let us not reinvent the wheel and/or introduce accidental
> complexity. I see
> > no reason why packaging is not simply BIP152 without the 'header'
> field, an
> > updated protocol version, and the following sort of changes to
> names
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> Interestingly, "why not use BIP 152 shortids to save bandwidth?" is
> by far the most common suggestion I hear (including offline feedback).
> Here's a full explanation:
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> BIP 152 shortens transaction hashes (32 bytes) to shortids (6 bytes)
> to save a significant amount of network bandwidth, which is extremely
> important in block relay. However, this comes at the expense of
> computational complexity. There is no way to directly calculate a =
transaction
> hash from a shortid; upon receipt of a compact block, a node is =
expected to
> calculate the shortids of every unconfirmed transaction it knows about =
to
> find the matches (BIP 152: [1], Bitcoin Core: [2]). This is expensive =
but
> appropriate for block relay, since the block must have a valid Proof =
of Work
> and new blocks only come every ~10 minutes. On the other hand, if we
> require nodes to calculate shortids for every transaction in their =
mempools
> every time they receive a package, we are creating a DoS vector.
> Unconfirmed transactions don't need PoW and, to have a live =
transaction
> relay network, we should expect nodes to handle transactions at a =
high-ish
> rate (i.e. at least 1000s of times more transactions than blocks). We =
can't pre-
> calculate or cache shortids for mempool transactions, since the =
SipHash key
> depends on the block hash and a per-connection salt.
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> Additionally, shortid calculation is not designed to prevent =
intentional
> individual collisions. If we were to use these shortids to deduplicate
> transactions we've supposedly already seen, we may have a censorship
> vector. Again, these tradeoffs make sense for compact block relay (see
> shortid section in BIP 152 [3]), but not package relay.
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> TLDR: DoSy if we calculate shortids on every package and censorship
> vector if we use shortids for deduplication.
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> > Given this message there is no reason
> > to send a (potentially bogus) fee rate with every package. It can
> only be
> > validated by obtaining the full set of txs, and the only recourse =
is
> > dropping (etc.) the peer, as is the case with single txs.
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>=20
> Yeah, I agree with this. Combined with the previous discussion with
> aj (i.e. we can't accurately communicate the incentive compatibility =
of a
> package without sending the full graph, and this whole dance is to =
avoid
> downloading a few low-fee transactions in uncommon edge cases), I've
> realized I should remove the fee + weight information from pkginfo. =
Yay for
> less complexity!
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> Also, this might be pedantic, but I said something incorrect earlier
> and would like to correct myself:
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> >> In theory, yes, but maybe it was announced earlier (while our
> node was down?) or had dropped from our mempool or similar, either way
> we don't have those txs yet.
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> I said "It's fine if they have Erlay, since a sender would know in
> advance that B is missing and announce it as a package." But this =
isn't true
> since we're only using reconciliation in place of flooding to announce
> transactions as they arrive, not for rebroadcast, and we're not doing =
full
> mempool set reconciliation. In any case, making sure a node receives =
the
> transactions announced when it was offline is not something we =
guarantee,
> not an intended use case for package relay, and not worsened by this.
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> Thanks for your feedback!
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> Best,
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> Gloria
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> [1]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-
> 0152.mediawiki#cmpctblock
> [2]:
> =
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/blockencodings.cpp#L49=
> [3]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-
> 0152.mediawiki#short-transaction-id-calculation
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> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 3:59 AM <eric@voskuil.org
> <mailto:eric@voskuil.org> > wrote:
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> Given that packages have no header, the package requires
> identity in a
> BIP152 scheme. For example 'header' and 'blockhash' fields
> can be replaced
> with a Merkle root (e.g. "identity" field) for the package,
> uniquely
> identifying the partially-ordered set of txs. And use of
> 'getdata' (to
> obtain a package by hash) can be eliminated (not a use case).
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> e
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: eric@voskuil.org <mailto:eric@voskuil.org>
> <eric@voskuil.org <mailto:eric@voskuil.org> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 1:52 PM
> > To: 'Anthony Towns' <aj@erisian.com.au
> <mailto:aj@erisian.com.au> >; 'Bitcoin Protocol Discussion'
> > <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org <mailto:bitcoin-
> dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> >; 'Gloria Zhao'
> > <gloriajzhao@gmail.com <mailto:gloriajzhao@gmail.com> >
> > Subject: RE: [bitcoin-dev] Package Relay Proposal
> >
> > > From: bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev-
> bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org <mailto:bitcoin-dev-
> bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org> > On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Anthony Towns via bitcoin-dev
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 11:56 AM
> >
> > > So the other thing is what happens if the peer
> announcing packages to us
> > is
> > > dishonest?
> > >
> > > They announce pkg X, say X has parents A B C and the fee
> rate is
> garbage.
> > But
> > > actually X has parent D and the fee rate is excellent. Do
> we request the
> > > package from another peer, or every peer, to double
> check? Otherwise
> > we're
> > > allowing the first peer we ask about a package to censor
> that tx from
> us?
> > >
> > > I think the fix for that is just to provide the fee and weight
> when
> > announcing
> > > the package rather than only being asked for its info?
> Then if one peer
> > makes
> > > it sound like a good deal you ask for the parent txids from
> them,
> dedupe,
> > > request, and verify they were honest about the parents.
> >
> > Single tx broadcasts do not carry an advertised fee rate,
> however the'
> > feefilter' message (BIP133) provides this distinction. This
> should be
> > interpreted as applicable to packages. Given this message
> there is no
> reason
> > to send a (potentially bogus) fee rate with every package. It
> can only be
> > validated by obtaining the full set of txs, and the only
> recourse is
> > dropping (etc.) the peer, as is the case with single txs.
> Relying on the
> > existing message is simpler, more consistent, and more
> efficient.
> >
> > > >> Is it plausible to add the graph in?
> > >
> > > Likewise, I think you'd have to have the graph info from
> many nodes if
> > you're
> > > going to make decisions based on it and don't want
> hostile peers to be
> > able to
> > > trick you into ignoring txs.
> > >
> > > Other idea: what if you encode the parent txs as a short
> hash of the
> wtxid
> > > (something like bip152 short ids? perhaps seeded per
> peer so collisions
> > will
> > > be different per peer?) and include that in the inv
> announcement? Would
> > > that work to avoid a round trip almost all of the time,
> while still
> giving
> > you
> > > enough info to save bw by deduping parents?
> >
> > As I suggested earlier, a package is fundamentally a
> compact block (or
> > block) announcement without the header. Compact block
> (BIP152)
> > announcement
> > is already well-defined and widely implemented. A node
> should never be
> > required to retain an orphan, and BIP152 ensures this is not
> required.
> >
> > Once a validated set of txs within the package has been
> obtained with
> > sufficient fee, a fee-optimal node would accept the largest
> subgraph of
> the
> > package that conforms to fee constraints and drop any
> peer that provides a
> > package for which the full graph does not.
> >
> > Let us not reinvent the wheel and/or introduce accidental
> complexity. I
> see
> > no reason why packaging is not simply BIP152 without the
> 'header' field,
> an
> > updated protocol version, and the following sort of changes
> to names:
> >
> > sendpkg
> > MSG_CMPCT_PKG
> > cmpctpkg
> > getpkgtxn
> > pkgtxn
> >
> > > > For a maximum 25 transactions,
> > > >23*24/2 =3D 276, seems like 36 bytes for a child-with-
> parents package.
> > >
> > > If you're doing short ids that's maybe 25*4B=3D100B
> already, then the
> above
> > is
> > > up to 36% overhead, I guess. Might be worth thinking
> more about, but
> > maybe
> > > more interesting with ancestors than just parents.
> > >
> > > >Also side note, since there are no size/count params,
> >
> > Size is restricted in the same manner as block and
> transaction broadcasts,
> > by consensus. If the fee rate is sufficient there would be no
> reason to
> > preclude any valid size up to what can be mined in one
> block (packaging
> > across blocks is not economically rational under the
> assumption that one
> > miner cannot expect to mine multiple blocks in a row).
> Count is
> incorporated
> > into BIP152 as 'shortids_length'.
> >
> > > > wondering if we
> > > >should just have "version" in "sendpackages" be a bit
> field instead of
> > > >sending a message for each version. 32 versions should
> be enough right?
> >
> > Adding versioning to individual protocols is just a reflection
> of the
> > insufficiency of the initial protocol versioning design, and
> that of the
> > various ad-hoc changes to it (including yet another
> approach in this
> > proposal) that have been introduced to compensate for it,
> though I'll
> > address this in an independent post at some point.
> >
> > Best,
> > e
> >
> > > Maybe but a couple of messages per connection doesn't
> really seem worth
> > > arguing about?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > aj
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sent from my phone.
> > >
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