summaryrefslogtreecommitdiff
path: root/13/30331467a9af5a96734953ce4d2b5147d17411
blob: 89e054947b83d75ec88216f5a049747d35b257cb (plain)
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193]
	helo=mx.sourceforge.net)
	by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76)
	(envelope-from <mark@monetize.io>) id 1XF52l-0007Er-Ls
	for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net;
	Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:30:31 +0000
Received: from mail-pa0-f52.google.com ([209.85.220.52])
	by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128)
	(Exim 4.76) id 1XF52h-0001Tg-L9
	for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net;
	Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:30:31 +0000
Received: by mail-pa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id bj1so3770062pad.25
	for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>;
	Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:30:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
	d=1e100.net; s=20130820;
	h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent
	:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type
	:content-transfer-encoding;
	bh=80u74orp9215pUZnqhZ1Si6joDBHcADez+9xXwVp/x4=;
	b=hul/NugkHPtzhZtuzx6XoDkW4LAugQtPfJMgEBKXgVfsHa3baEsXqKh5wj4wd/SRaJ
	tE9nypK4btR16o2YJaq4p4mPAnq3EMnG3hELZjTRUy5A7KfTiuaojaLDz4v7Jh8bJUuf
	kJqcSNqA+KRPX3d5PQdgoQXyuG8eCZHnDmsaNDpDtZjf3DM9Laq7VNgv0bopO3dJvQ4X
	UoXeohameWA5ayj7Pjul5f0K+y3QazaOfHxipcBj8K2KhGkZANGjrUR4ZWqDD3PEkf2K
	OXgzVu+AbV3A+umkervUHgHI7TIO5rtZsYlC5kVADMf75Cy1JSFCz0zHhVnvEh1qqdOx
	i5OA==
X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmXfkk1JkGJwXHuKWL34Ha7aQYlO7Xxfe40DQvkY/52eFZURn0ndp1pdmybMTS/JRiTEh2y
X-Received: by 10.66.167.105 with SMTP id zn9mr11736835pab.103.1407346221818; 
	Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:30:21 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [192.168.127.194] (173-228-106-61.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net.
	[173.228.106.61])
	by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p9sm2646297pdl.21.2014.08.06.10.30.17
	for <multiple recipients>
	(version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128);
	Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:30:21 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <53E26623.3070107@monetize.io>
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 13:30:11 -0400
From: Mark Friedenbach <mark@monetize.io>
Organization: Monetize.io Inc.
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64;
	rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>, 
	Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
References: <CA+iPb=HkxeVPF0SynxCPgUkq4msrdfayFrVNFjzg29rFwqXv1w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJHLa0O2wFq2Vs5Bes_8x1q_j0VC+U4DQkx=6GqT8w5e8Lh5Qg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+iPb=ET+A-qB8TgPX8D-ut1DWnq9tZJ=14igfRVWO6eog6Xgw@mail.gmail.com>
	<53E1A8AF.4030206@thinlink.com>
	<CAJHLa0MfRhCPX8H92qc1kSebc=WrUzmSgbG331t4-zDHhTNu4w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANEZrP3eEiLxYfsAURRm4ysfS4TRgXxa_THxJ43cVH1OyR95JQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<53E23F49.3020605@thinlink.com>
	<CAJHLa0OtPA3DGQuJhp3zkK5dnBux6TFAw3qDsBdO0zaxrqBgRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALxbBHXh-Fktsr96PMXdohJdgcUKoNreJ-ZuApKOX3-qSkdk2w@mail.gmail.com>
	<63a80796-609e-43f5-9280-4cd8cf5d2648@email.android.com>
	<53E2585C.8070009@monetize.io>
	<cafd8184-f589-4709-90f3-f3a38f2dd8d0@email.android.com>
In-Reply-To: <cafd8184-f589-4709-90f3-f3a38f2dd8d0@email.android.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net.
	See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.
X-Headers-End: 1XF52h-0001Tg-L9
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] deterministic transaction expiration
X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>,
	<mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development>
List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>,
	<mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:30:31 -0000

On 08/06/2014 01:20 PM, Peter Todd wrote:
> The general case doesn't require transmission of any merkle data; it
> is derived from the tx data.

How can that possibly be the case? The information is hidden behind the
Merkle root in the transaction. The validator needs to know whether
there is an expiry and what it is. What's it supposed to do, guess?