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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Warning message when running wallet in
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On 4/16/2014 4:14 AM, Wladimir wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to not do internet
> banking with Windows XP.
>
> If it is no longer secure enough for online banking it's CERTAINLY not
> secure enough to run a wallet (for a node only it would be ok-ish as
> they have no keys to protect).
>
> Any opinions on what to do here? Just warn and allow the user to
> continue? Redirect them to a 'Windows XP is dangerous' message on
> bitcoin.org <http://bitcoin.org>? (Microsoft uses
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help)
>
> The drawback of dropping XP support completely would be that a lot of
> computers (especially in China and Russia etc) are still running XP,
> so this could cause the network to lose nodes.
>
> If you're maintainer of other wallet software: how are you handling this?
> Are you going to drop XP support completely? If so, starting from when?
>
> Regards,
> Wladimir
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I think we should get to the bottom of this. Should we assume that xp
is not secure enough? What is this warning? Who is issuing this warning?
--
Kevin
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/2014 4:14 AM, Wladimir wrote:<br>
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<div>Hello,<br>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p>Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to
not do internet banking with Windows XP.</p>
<p>If it is no longer secure enough for online banking
it's CERTAINLY not secure enough to run a wallet (for a
node only it would be ok-ish as they have no keys to
protect).</p>
</div>
</div>
Any opinions on what to do here? Just warn and allow the user
to continue? Redirect them to a 'Windows XP is dangerous'
message on <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bitcoin.org">bitcoin.org</a>? (Microsoft uses <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help">http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help</a>)<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>The drawback of dropping XP support completely would be
that a lot of computers (especially in China and Russia etc)
are still running XP, so this could cause the network to lose
nodes.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
If you're maintainer of other wallet software: how are you
handling this?<br>
</div>
<div>Are you going to drop XP support completely? If so,
starting from when?<br>
</div>
<div><br>
Regards,<br>
</div>
Wladimir<br>
<br>
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I think we should get to the bottom of this. Should we assume that
xp is not secure enough? What is this warning? Who is issuing this
warning?<br>
<br>
<br>
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Kevin
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