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i like the 00 || X_spend || X_scan + mandate address reuse prevention.
might as well start with something strict
easy to loosen it later - if needed - harder to tighten it later because of
back-compatibility with addresses in-use
On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 11:02 AM alicexbt via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Hi woltx,
>
> Thanks for implementing silent payments in Bitcoin Core. I tried the steps
> shared in tutorial and everything works as expected.
>
> I have updated the silent payment address (signet) as TXT record for
> domain alice.silentbitco.in
>
> $ dig -t txt alice.silentbitco.in +short
> "tb1px3kma8e8y8z9l7e640v0x2chzrzww9cu06mqvwyrz805ffletu3s067sgh"
>
> I have also added basic information about silent payments proposal,
> implementation and tutorial on https://silentbitco.in
>
> I had no issues with performance of the UTXO Set and the blocks scan. I
> don't mind using flag but a new address/descriptor format should be a
> better approach. I could not review the code in detail or test edge cases
> however these suggestions by Pavol Rusnak make sense:
> https://gist.github.com/RubenSomsen/c43b79517e7cb701ebf77eec6dbb46b8?permalink_comment_id=4177027#gistcomment-4177027
>
>
> /dev/fd0
>
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>
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Tuesday, May 24th, 2022 at 7:01 AM, woltx via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> I created a short and simple tutorial on how to make silent payments on
> signet.
> https://gist.github.com/w0xlt/72390ded95dd797594f80baba5d2e6ee
>
> In this tutorial, the user will generate an address, publish it, receive
> and spend coins from it and still no transactions are shown from this
> address in a blockchain explorer.
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">i like the=C2=A0
<code class=3D"gmail-notranslate" style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;font-famil=
y:ui-monospace,SFMono-Regular,"SF Mono",Menlo,Consolas,"Libe=
ration Mono",monospace;font-size:11.9px;padding:0.2em 0.4em;margin:0px=
;border-radius:6px;color:rgb(36,41,47)">00 || X_spend || X_scan</code><span=
style=3D"color:rgb(36,41,47);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,=
"Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji&quo=
t;,"Segoe UI Emoji";font-size:14px">=C2=A0+ mandate address reuse=
prevention.=C2=A0 <br><br>might as well start with something strict<br><br=
>easy to loosen it later - if needed - harder to tighten it later because o=
f back-compatibility with addresses in-use</span><div><br></div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May=
24, 2022 at 11:02 AM alicexbt via bitcoin-dev <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoi=
n-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div =
style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Hi <span sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,"Helvetica Neue",Helveti=
ca,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline">woltx</span=
>,</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;color:rgb(34,34,34)"=
><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;color:rgb(34,34,3=
4)">Thanks for implementing silent payments in Bitcoin Core. I tried the st=
eps shared in tutorial and everything works as expected.=C2=A0</div><div st=
yle=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></div><div=
style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;color:rgb(34,34,34)">I have upda=
ted the silent payment address (signet) as TXT record for domain <a href=3D=
"http://alice.silentbitco.in" target=3D"_blank">alice.silentbitco.in</a></d=
iv><div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br>=
</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><=
span>$ dig -t txt <a href=3D"http://alice.silentbitco.in" target=3D"_blank"=
>alice.silentbitco.in</a>=C2=A0+short</span><div><span>"tb1px3kma8e8y8=
z9l7e640v0x2chzrzww9cu06mqvwyrz805ffletu3s067sgh"</span></div><div><br=
></div><div>I have also added basic information about silent payments propo=
sal, implementation and tutorial on <a href=3D"https://silentbitco.in" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://silentbitco.in</a></div><span></span></div><div style=
=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style=3D"ba=
ckground-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline"></span></div><div style=3D"=
font-family:arial;font-size:14px;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></div><div style=
=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style=3D"ba=
ckground-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline"><span>I had no issues with =
performance of the UTXO Set and the blocks scan. I don't mind using fla=
g but a new address/descriptor format should be a better approach.=C2=A0</s=
pan>I could not review the code in detail or test edge cases however these =
suggestions by Pavol Rusnak make sense:=C2=A0<span><a rel=3D"noreferrer nof=
ollow noopener" href=3D"https://gist.github.com/RubenSomsen/c43b79517e7cb70=
1ebf77eec6dbb46b8?permalink_comment_id=3D4177027#gistcomment-4177027" targe=
t=3D"_blank">https://gist.github.com/RubenSomsen/c43b79517e7cb701ebf77eec6d=
bb46b8?permalink_comment_id=3D4177027#gistcomment-4177027</a></span></span>=
</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><=
span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline"><br></span>=
</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><=
span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline"><br></span>=
</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><=
span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline">/dev/fd0</s=
pan></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px"><br></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px">
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</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px"><br></div><div>
------- Original Message -------<br>
On Tuesday, May 24th, 2022 at 7:01 AM, woltx via bitcoin-dev <<a=
href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bi=
tcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<span></span><div><span>I created a short and simple tutorial o=
n how to make silent payments on signet.</span></div><div><span><a href=3D"=
https://gist.github.com/w0xlt/72390ded95dd797594f80baba5d2e6ee" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer nofollow noopener" target=3D"_blank">https://gist.github.com/w0xlt/7=
2390ded95dd797594f80baba5d2e6ee</a></span></div><div><br></div><span>In thi=
s tutorial, the user will generate an address, publish it, receive and spen=
d coins from it and still no transactions are shown from this address in a =
blockchain explorer.</span>
</blockquote><br>
</div>_______________________________________________<br>
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bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br>
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rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail=
man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br>
</blockquote></div>
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