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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Classic 1.2.0 released
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On 01/07/2017 12:55 AM, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> Your release announcement does not make it clear that Bitcoin Classic i=
s
> incompatible with the current Bitcoin network and its consensus rules.
> It is a hard fork on mainnet with no safe activation as well as
> including other unsafe changes. There is also no BIP for the hard fork.=
> There is also no evidence of community wide consensus for such a hard
> fork. This is dangerous and irresponsible.
While I agree with the sentiment, to be fair one should acknowledge that
Bitcoin Core has intentionally implemented two hard forks since Nov
2015. The earlier is released, and I assume the latter will be.
Neither was subject to activation, or prior public debate (see Buried
Deployments threads):
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-November/thr=
ead.html
There was at least some internal discussion about whether a BIP should
document the latter having occurred, and that question was put to the lis=
t:
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-November/013=
275.html
Some have argued that these are inconsequential changes. I disagree, as
the arguments is base on provably invalid assumptions. Nevertheless, if
hard fork is the threshold criteria here, Core has not met it.
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