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See also https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3n5nws/research_paper_as=
ymmetric_proofofwork_based_on/cvl922x

Adam

On 2 October 2015 at 10:20, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Oct 2, 2015 10:03 AM, "Daniele Pinna via bitcoin-dev"
> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> should an algorithm that guarantees protection from ASIC/FPGA optimizati=
on
>> be found.
>
> This is demonstrably impossible: anything that can be done with software =
can
> be done with hardware. This is computer science 101.
> And specialized hardware can always be more efficient, at least energy-wi=
se.
>
> On the other hand, BIP99 explicitly contemplates "anti-miner hardforks"
> (obviously not for so called "ASIC-resistance" [an absurd term coined to
> promote some altcoins], but just for restarting the ASIC and mining marke=
t
> in case mining becomes too centralized).
>
>
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