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It seems so much easier to just allow bitcoin testnet to be used more widely=
 for larger scale bitcoin staging. People can assign value as they wish to t=
estnet bitcoins but at their own risk/peril. This incremental amount of valu=
e though would allow for testing of larger ideas, ideas that perhaps might n=
ot be appropriate in their nascent stages to apply for bitcoin.=20

Have your seen 'proof of existence'? It's basically a bitcoin notary service=
 that proves a document existed before it gets inserted into the blockchain.=
 While a good idea- you could argue that it's blockchain spam as well- espec=
ially if one were to adapt it to high volumes in the future for notarizing p=
ermanently things like tweets (for example) or combining it with something l=
ike colored coins. These are great ideas, but maybe better suited to a proto=
 bitcoin without needing to fashion a brand new coin.=20

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2013, at 11:25 PM, Andreas Petersson <andreas@petersson.at> wrote=
:

> my initial idea (not sure if it is good) was to have an asymetric market.
> lets say you want to create altcoin ALC. ALC are merge-mined with btc,
> though without block reward.
> to create 1 ALC you have two choices: destroy 1 BTC, or buy 1 ALC for a
> floating amount from an exchange.
>=20
> in my book, this would automatically lead to a slightly lower price for
> 1 ALC, and an automatic ceiling of 1 BTC, since you could always
> sacrifice BTC to gain ALC.
> but it would not diverge drastically lower, since apparently somebody
> was willing to destroy 1 BTC to create it. maybe it could even trade
> slightly higher because traded ALC could be spendable instantly while
> sacrificed ALC would need a 120 blocks maturing period.
> the "beauty" of that system is also it does not inflate the
> cryptocurrency realm.
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> Andreas
>=20
> Am 14.06.2013 23:10, schrieb Luke-Jr:
>> Note that the "earn a mixture of BTC and TBC, but not both in full volume=
"=20
>> only works for TBC because the price is by definition fixed with BTC.
>> I'm not sure how you could implement something like this for an altcoin w=
here=20
>> the price is floating independently of Bitcoin.. that is, how you would k=
now=20
>> the right amount of Bitcoin to require sacrificed.
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