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author | Mike Hearn <hearn@vinumeris.com> | 2015-08-31 21:11:52 +0200 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2015-08-31 19:11:58 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Your Gmaxwell exchange
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Bitcoin is decentralised + +2. Nobody should modify the code in certain ways without the agreement of +me and my buddies + +is just doublethink. + +--089e01229dde0c1995051ea03534 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div= +>I think your summary of what people actually want from decentralisation is= + pretty good, Justus.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot= +e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-colo= +r:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">I don't be= +lieve that any Bitcoin user actually cares about=C2=A0decentralization, bec= +ause none of them I've asked can define that term.<br></blockquote><div= +><br></div><div>+1 Insightful</div><div><br></div><div>It's been quite = +impressive to see so many Bitcoin users and developers saying, "Bitcoi= +n is totally decentralised because it's open source and nobody is in ch= +arge...... oh nooooooo we didn't mean you could change <i>those lines! = +</i>If you want to change <i>those lines</i>=C2=A0then <i>we</i>=C2=A0must = +agree first!"</div><div><br></div><div>Believing simultaneously that:<= +/div><div><br></div><div>1. Bitcoin is decentralised</div><div><br></div><d= +iv>2. Nobody should modify the code in certain ways without the agreement o= +f me and my buddies</div><div><br></div><div>is just doublethink.</div></di= +v></div></div> + +--089e01229dde0c1995051ea03534-- + |