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| author | Jean-Paul Kogelman <jeanpaulkogelman@me.com> | 2013-10-19 17:52:49 -0700 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2013-10-20 00:53:38 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] A critique of bitcoin open source community
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[URIs: github.com] + -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for + sender-domain + -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record +X-Headers-End: 1VXhGz-0007dw-SC +Cc: Bitcoin Development <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> +Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] A critique of bitcoin open + source community +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 +Precedence: list +List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, + <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, + <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 00:53:38 -0000 + + +--Apple-Mail=_0211C741-5095-402D-AF16-A999DFDA29D0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset=us-ascii + + +>> Having it on the BIP page doesn't make it any more official, I agree, = +but it does increase its exposure and will hopefully spark some more = +discussion. +>=20 +> Having it on the BIP page *does* make it more official, at least the = +way +> we've been using the BIP page, which is to filter out the proposals = +that +> haven't gotten much support at all. (or maybe are just controversial) + +Interesting. The main reason I wrote my proposal was because the only = +proposal that came close to covering the same area was BIP 39, which at = +that time had 2 paragraphs of text (although admittedly did link to a = +text file off site where the draft was being developed). And currently = +there are 2 proposals that have numbers allocated but are empty (BIP 40 = +and 41) with no references to the development or discussion. + +I appreciate the fact that acceptance of proposals on the BIP page are = +more strict, but it may be desirable to have the enforcement be more = +uniform. Also, BIP 38 is gaining more acceptance out in the community = +(many sites support the import of these keys and a growing number of = +paper wallet sites / coin / card vendors are offering it as an option), = +yet it's still missing from the BIP list, which seems to me a bit = +counter to the arguments given about community acceptance. + +> FWIW I myself haven't pushed hard for getting an "official" BIP number +> for my draft NODE_BLOOM BIP, even though I've got support from most of +> the dev team on the pull-request: +> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2900 I'm probably at the point +> where I could get one assigned - Litecoin for instance has made that +> change - but really I just see that as a formality; that it's still a +> controversial idea is much more relevant. + + +> In any case I don't see any working code in your email, I'd suggest +> writing some. You're BIP would be much more likely to be accepted if = +you +> were more involved in wallet development. + +Good point. I'm developing my own client (which has the code up and = +running, with unit tests), but I'm not ready to release it just yet = +until I've got all the client's alpha features working. Would putting = +contact information there so people can ask for the relevant code be = +sufficient until I have my client up on github? + + +jp + + + +--Apple-Mail=_0211C741-5095-402D-AF16-A999DFDA29D0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: attachment; + filename=signature.asc +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; + name=signature.asc +Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org + +iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJSYylhAAoJEG93Vo4Z7tpFH4cP/iKL+vx89L+eE9/KeJAiXFsf +mNX7brnL4xcoqV+IsqgBq/PfdpKB/WfrY21klaxSnhj+LOlqAOV1/c36u+t9tZco +xIfvo8bero6ct4w3BM0nip1NTFAo1D4hC2VM5G1J9siyahUuZNnjDcZnYhXszbng +HukvyHqnUwaYNMAeCexr1RMuE06sa5sjc/WUTFUhldElxQ2AMJxmTDM/4k7LhCp0 +a9YnvHOJI8i5yEW/y8D3zy5uo5vOOkdyrN5Ja/zkVp1VEVqHyhW2Ld6ZBpqJnywN +cOxgBKOaDFJ1BLQpIIn0CK5DAgM6agw0eCbIxuupZzvsWl8RqbnevOtlcr44C8Fz +m8hpQdjTxqXvb0T0VMisEGTpd9nhtTiSyehP6BIWo12TyLoTObKhB4WKp5Nw8+tQ +WuBwixGmcdBi6CXdGFgeQTZEO8SLBnositYe/ixb83oQSqrlBGELydCSZ2VEsosa +WqBInhGxcNiOLFW3VW78IowxK95zxFrPaF4osrFaIYhk5f6p1xdVDbjzbsfwDgOx +yZ6jFNWepM+VMp2H8jnIwa4xBfrJx2CTO9ZpxOCyZ+Y/DchY/aHSY21iYQscgRcA +5nRX9XDHWlEES4yyoo1VL5JvnQHAgCFZNTBL7I2IEubVXHehIyuXJJDZKF/nseZ4 +NloIKTAkYo5don1a0+xu +=qdxi +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--Apple-Mail=_0211C741-5095-402D-AF16-A999DFDA29D0-- + + |