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| author | Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> | 2022-07-26 16:27:56 +0200 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2022-07-26 14:37:45 +0000 |
| commit | f5ca25130f165f6ad00c9a78f9bd8e275aaa3080 (patch) | |
| tree | b2049f224826b307f18eb38e559ea4899216377e | |
| parent | fc035bc24ea529f0c6658f4cf830593c6b84288b (diff) | |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Regarding setting a lower minrelaytxfee
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Tue, + 26 Jul 2022 10:37:38 -0400 (EDT) +Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 16:27:56 +0200 +From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> +To: alicexbt <alicexbt@protonmail.com>, + Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>, + alicexbt via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>, + Aaradhya Chauhan <chauhanansh.me@gmail.com> +User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android +In-Reply-To: <Ue6CCWgdkGc1VPF4yAP252kg3h-6U6xCZZ7hs9w6vDM7LBWsAaksRkLIpkrE39HLmI35Fu3cHC3-WA8Q9Ij3Z7YhAqzJbkytBqU9ZbfruB0=@protonmail.com> +References: <CAGHFe1BXdTkPZn4r_KTxYoz0sqcMsV830dm5JTTFURxDezBnDQ@mail.gmail.com> + <Ue6CCWgdkGc1VPF4yAP252kg3h-6U6xCZZ7hs9w6vDM7LBWsAaksRkLIpkrE39HLmI35Fu3cHC3-WA8Q9Ij3Z7YhAqzJbkytBqU9ZbfruB0=@protonmail.com> +Message-ID: <8CD1F5D4-9260-4BE7-B710-993955AB58C8@petertodd.org> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset=utf-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Regarding setting a lower minrelaytxfee +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 +Precedence: list +List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 14:37:46 -0000 + + + +On July 26, 2022 2:19:32 PM GMT+02:00, alicexbt via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-d= +ev@lists=2Elinuxfoundation=2Eorg> wrote: +>Hi Aaradhya, +> +>> As it's not a consensus rule, I think it can be done easily, just needi= +ng support from full node operators +> +>A few miners will need to use a lower minrelaytxfee for this to work=2E I= + don't think miners would want to lower their profits=2E + +Whether or not this lowers profits for a particular miner is complex: + +https://petertodd=2Eorg/2016/block-publication-incentives-for-miners + +But to a first approximation, at any fee above zero failing to mine a tx y= +ou know about is leaving money on the table=2E + +Anyway even if miners don't actually mine these txs by themselves, with Ch= +ild-Pays-For-Parent, allowing near-zero txs into your mempool potentially a= +llows you to mine more fees=2E + |