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author | Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> | 2015-05-09 14:30:31 -0400 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2015-05-09 18:30:45 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposed alternatives to the 20MB step function
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It seems to me it'd make sense to offer +> those for any miner as long as the get paid a little for it. Especially +> when it's as simple as offering an incomplete transaction with the +> appropriate SIGHASH flags. + +Like many things, the fact that they need to negotiate the right at all +is a *huge* barrier to smaller mining operations, as well as being an +attractive point of control for regulators. + +> a part of the reason I like this idea is because it will allow stakeholde= +rs +> a degree of influence on how large the fees are. At least from the surfac= +e, +> it looks like incentives are pretty well matched. They have an incentive = +to +> not let the fees drop too low so the network continues to be usable and +> they also have an incentive to not raise them too high because it'll push +> users into using other systems. Also, there'll be competition between +> stakeholders, which should keep the fees reasonable. + +If you want to allow stakeholders influence you should look into John Dillo= +n's +proof-of-stake blocksize voting scheme: + +http://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/msg02= +323.html + +--=20 +'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org +00000000000000000e7980aab9c096c46e7f34c43a661c5cb2ea71525ebb8af7 + +--6BvahUXLYAruDZOj +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" +Content-Description: Digital signature + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- + +iQGrBAEBCACVBQJVTlJEXhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw +MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwZTc5ODBhYWI5YzA5NmM0NmU3ZjM0YzQzYTY2MWM1Y2Iy +ZWE3MTUyNWViYjhhZjcvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 +ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQwIXyHOf0udzzSAf/TW1MOmg6Vkr7itDwb/FiwZwb +8XWXMLmbCN3mapnQZ0Zg0ykU3RDJkZMDbk4EXKxRHg4A7sf8rRVS/orcH8ouyqcK +uyEha2JcTXlt1wiszNYXRBOB4k2a77tNQNc6QPX56ffQPoClIQJTSEWlwqdxVw86 ++Jcw8RRSTbGAlyNxwn2/GMthEDVXTrTQwwMrKEj4/rhy8+E4g1GrakUkOuuZJ+Vx +S/SZ/AV4onyT165VF4mVyNyPDJ4/qEFvW2U2UVI/VzMIWYnlx5NMpZA0OAQykC8W +roM+G/Rnqd1U+kt7ceEM44atVAJ5A9zkk0t2OjqdvqiU5CQf9mwdftWIEB/5rQ== +=uHlD +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--6BvahUXLYAruDZOj-- + + |