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author | Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> | 2016-06-28 16:14:47 -0400 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2016-06-28 20:14:55 +0000 |
commit | ead4cca4c730633e8555739bec73a8cf7197ee0e (patch) | |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP 151
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But some +users do check keys, a labor intensive manual process, but not a process th= +at +requires any real cryptographic sophistication, let alone writing any code. +It's very difficult for widescale attackers to distinguish the users who do +check keys from the ones that don't, so if you MITM attack _any_ user you r= +un +the risk of running into one of the few that does check, and those users can +alert everyone else. + +The key thing, is we need to get everyones communications encrypted first: = +if +we don't the MITM attacker can intercept 99% of the communications with 0% = +risk +of detection, because the non-sophisticated users are trivially distinguish= +able +=66rom the sophisticated users: just find the users with unencrypted +communications! + +--=20 +https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org + +--9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" +Content-Description: Digital signature + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- + +iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXctq1AAoJEGOZARBE6K+yArcH/2qGXksCSscEBSWpE12ABOGD +U9p3aARNXaIwCPodQyjTi0h7JFPwLyqY0ZvFEZdYKvMVgAz8VS14Ub4XVzgwXsUl +a9PaPqNW5TqFkKiOXiMB7IQCqrvGcYdcL9HoRrSLDBKttlAEr7KJT19Za9oYLtd6 +4scSxeCquWxaeOrT02/7p0vLqkQ5qUNu/EFU8CdUMkNBANAZwJip2eL9/Yw7bdOZ +pI2XkCznwWZGep+kvFFfUF0SZwM1u7IfR5rZK5Zg9+sifw9X8RiHwikUfYcqY2T6 +4HCCiR7dwFqLAmDt25hbLcYT1DJUW6nZ+57GtkToDA9swOFwL14fyoAI2m6f1pQ= +=Aga6 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR-- + |