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| author | Null Null <ebbe52e5@gmail.com> | 2021-08-26 10:43:27 +0800 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Is there a tool like Ethereum EVM at present for Bitcoin script?
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+X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 +Precedence: list +List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 02:43:35 -0000 + +thanks for you suggestion, Gijs. + +I spent some time learning miniscript, and there are some problems that = +need to confirm for me: + +1. Is miniscript a brand new Bitcoin scripting language? +2. If I use miniscript, do I need to compile it into a Bitcoin OP_CODE = +script? If so, how to do that ? has someone written a compiler?=20 +I found that @sipa has open sourced a compiler implemented in C++ on = +github( https://github.com/sipa/miniscript ). This should translate the = +policy language into miniscript; + +> 2021=E5=B9=B48=E6=9C=8824=E6=97=A5 =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=883:36=EF=BC=8CGijs = +van Dam via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> = +=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A +>=20 +> Hi, +>=20 +>=20 +> Bitcoin does not have a virtual machine. But you do have = +[Miniscript][1], [Min.sc][2], [Simplicity][3] and [Sapio][4]. These are = +all higher level languages that compile to Bitcoin Script. Sapio is = +"just" Rust, so that might fit your setting best. +>=20 +> By the way, this question also has an answer on [Bitcoin = +Stackexchange][5] which is a great resource for questions like this. +>=20 +> [1]: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/miniscript/ +> [2]: https://min.sc/ +> [3]: https://github.com/ElementsProject/simplicity +> [4]: https://learn.sapio-lang.org/ +> [5]: = +https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/108261/is-there-a-tool-like-et= +hereum-evm-at-present-for-bitcoin-script +>=20 +> On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:55 PM Null Null via bitcoin-dev = +<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: +> Hi all, +>=20 +> Is there a tool like Ethereum EVM at present? Users can write bitcoin = +scripts in a syntax just like python(or like other programming = +language); through this tool, they can be translated into bitcoin = +original scripts; it sounds like a new programming language has been = +invented. +>=20 +> In my opinion=EF=BC=8C Bitcoin script programming is based on reverse = +Polish expression; this is not friendly to programmers; +>=20 +> In fact, Bitcoin's opcode expression ability is very rich, and it may = +be unfriendly, which has affected the promotion of Bitcoin in the = +technical community. +>=20 +> Hope for hearing some voice about this. +>=20 +> Best wish. +>=20 +> _______________________________________________ +> bitcoin-dev mailing list +> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev +> _______________________________________________ +> bitcoin-dev mailing list +> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev + + |