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[bitcoindev] Re: OP_CAT Research Fund sponsored by StarkWare
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charset="UTF-8" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +Hi all, + +> While I welcome the effort, its worth pointing out that bounties like=20 +this have a very long history +> of generating no interesting results because people who might otherwise= +=20 +generate interesting results +> are rarely motivated by bounties. + +From my experience, I both agree and disagree with that viewpoint. + +Since taproot activation in 2021, I think that one of the main reason there= +=20 +has been a complete stale +in all consensus discussions related to soft-fork changes about covenants= +=20 +or contracting primitives +extending bitcoin script is the lack of following some trial-and-error=20 +design & development process. +In the similar fashion and with the same level of rigors as we have seen=20 +with schnorr / taproot changes +themselves, where the idea of a merkle tree to commit to a set of scripts= +=20 +is as old as 2013 [0]. + +Let's recall briefly some steps of taproot design & development process, as= +=20 +it did happen. + +With taproot, there has been for years a competing debate of technical=20 +ideas between the templated approach +(what is today bip341 / bip340) and the approach allowing more flexibility= +=20 +for the application / protocol +designer (bip144 or the bip116 / bip117 combination). Following this debate= +=20 +of idea, there was a bip proposal +to enshrine the taproot idea in a concrete technical idea in May 2019 [1]= +=20 +(Though was the coalescing of merkle +ideas in a single proposal done in a public, open and fair process ? I=20 +believe there were complaints from Maaku +that is was done in a more or less close-fashion at CoreDev NYC in March=20 +2018, of which a transcript is here [2] +Was this discussed more at the CoreDev one in Tokyo 2018 ?). + +Following the debate between technical ideas aiming to bring the same kind= +=20 +of mechanism at the consensus-level +in bitcoin, there was an open review process on IRC at the autumn of 2019,= +=20 +where all attendees were able to +ask technical questions to the taproot bip proposal authors [3]. In=20 +parallel, there was a serie of industry +workshops made by Bitcoin Optech to present what the consensus changes=20 +would allow to build or improve in +the ecosystem in multiple geographical locations [4]. + +Following those meetings, there was an implementation pull request open in= +=20 +one of the full-node client in +the early year of 2020 [5], PR which was merged after an extensive code=20 +review cycle at the end of the year +of 2020 [6]. Subsequent open technical discussions happened on the mailing= +=20 +list early in 2021 to propose an +in-depth technical analysis of some claimed short-coming of taproot [7]. + +That's a rough summary of the design & development process followed for=20 +Taproot. + +Concerning what did happen following Taproot activation at the end of 2021,= +=20 +there has been multiple +initiatives to improve the bitcoin script system, most notably by Jeremy=20 +with CTV early in 2021 [8]. +This proposal was the culmination of years of R&D by Jeremy, as if my=20 +memory is correct he did some +workshops about CTV and covenant along the years e.g at one of the Miami=20 +conference. + +While this proposal didn't gather enough signaling for an activation, some= +=20 +experienced protocol devs have +drawn lessons about this design, development and activation attempt. During= +=20 +the mid-summer I launched a +serie of IRC meetings for covenant devs on an open and public channel [9],= +=20 +which was more or less regularly +attended by a lot of folks. The goal of organizing regular open online=20 +meetings was to progressively find +where covenants devs converge (and where they actually diverge) about their= +=20 +bitcoin technical ideas. + +In another line of fashion, there was the bitcoin-inquisition fork (yes the= +=20 +naming is from the Monty Python) +by AJ [10] with the objectives to propose and implement an idea and=20 +demonstrate it's technically or economically +worthwile. The bitcoin contracting primitives WG has been more or less=20 +discontinued by myself (maintainers welcome!), +and I don't think the bitcoin-inquisition fork has been that active (we run= +=20 +out of expert eyes to review sophisticated +consensus changes...). + +So I think I agree with the viewpoint that indeed skilled people who can=20 +come with interesting results are +rarely motivated by bounties. However this viewpoint is missing some other= +=20 +side of the picture, namely having +a communication space in the bitcoin ecosystem, where novel ideas can be=20 +expressed in an open and public fashion, +instead of seeing a communication space locked-down by some bitcoin FOSS=20 +veterans (as they fear for the sustainability +of their ivory tower jobs like the usual bureaucract at your local=20 +regulatory body who has never got a job in real life, +wasn't one of Jeremy's critic about the consensus design process ? [11]). + +So if we think that open and public communication space promoting high=20 +standards of scientific and engineering discussions +is one of the key element, I can only invite that bounties be more consumed= +=20 +to nurture open and public process like IRC meetings, +sorting out and archiving well the decade-long of ideas about covenants and= +=20 +bitcoin script extensions or putting back on foot +major open in-person conferences like Scaling Bitcoin, that were disrupted= +=20 +by the pandemie. + +(...I don't think CoreDev and other invitation-only dev meetings is an=20 +appropriate forum anymore, as someone regularly +invited, in my opinion it becomes more a who you know on the social graph= +=20 +style of in-person meetings, that it is persisting +as a meritocracy of ideas, written code and other technical=20 +contributions...) + +If we ignore the lessons of the past, I think we'll be condemned to repeat= +=20 +them like we have seen with the +blocksize war, where there was on one-side skilled devs cloister-walled on= +=20 +the bitcoin core codebase, that +codebase full of bugs, and on the other side industry companies and=20 +application builders aiming to bring +some user traffic to pay for the on-chain fees. I believe there was wrongs= +=20 +and rights on each side. + +I think those considerations about working hard to re-insitute or improve= +=20 +the open and public communication +space in which a design & development conversation about consensus changes= +=20 +under high intellectual standards +can happen are valuable. Especially, as it is more and more likely that=20 +Bitcoin development process becomes +more targeted by nation-states or other political actors such as=20 +Greenpeace. Afterall, it was a very long +time ago that Gavin as a bitcoin maintainer was invited to give highlights= +=20 +about Bitcoin to a very particular +service [12]. + +On those last regards, I think it can be only helpful if future open=20 +conferences about Bitcoin scalability +and consensus changes are done in geopolitically neutral locations (e.g=20 +Singapor, Switzerland, some Caribbean +Islands, Dubai, Turkey, etc...). + +Best, +Antoine +ots hash: 34721270da9b1748b47396950b4418c7a4337a4b531fb75a2aeffc87f8b52a15 + +[0] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D255145.msg2757327#msg2757327 +[1]=20 +https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2019-May/016914.htm= +l +[2]=20 +https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2018-May/015951.htm= +l +[3] https://github.com/ajtowns/taproot-review +[4] https://bitcoinops.org/en/workshops/ +[5] https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17977 +[6] https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19997 +[7]=20 +https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-March/018641.h= +tml +[8] https://rubin.io/bitcoin/2021/11/28/advent-1/ +[9] https://github.com/ariard/bitcoin-contracting-primitives-wg +[10]=20 +https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2022-September/0209= +21.html +[11] https://rubin.io/bitcoin/2021/11/28/advent-1/ +[12] https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=3D6652.0 +Le jeudi 29 ao=C3=BBt 2024 =C3=A0 17:21:27 UTC+1, /dev /fd0 a =C3=A9crit : + +> Hi Victor, +> +> I am not interested in submitting any proposals based on the guidelines= +=20 +> <https://starkware.co/submission-proposals/>, however below are some=20 +> interesting observations and research related to OP_CAT: +> +> Drivechain: https://sha-gate-demo.netlify.app/=20 +> AOPP 2.0:=20 +> https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/6SgD6_rmNAQ/m/Q3cTqaqEDQAJ +> AMM : https://xcancel.com/super_testnet/status/1826674357860811036 +> On-chain DEX:=20 +> https://gitlab.com/GeneralProtocols/anyhedge/contracts/-/blame/developmen= +t/contracts/v0.12/artifact.json?ref_type=3Dheads#L93 +> Zero-conf: https://gitlab.com/-/snippets/3735654 +> +> /dev/fd0 +> floppy disk guy +> On Thursday, August 29, 2024 at 1:27:53=E2=80=AFPM UTC Victor Kolobov wro= +te: +> +>> Hey all, +>> +>> +>> StarkWare has announced a $1 million bounty for compelling arguments=20 +>> either in favor of or against the activation of OP_CAT. This bounty is= +=20 +>> overseen by a committee which includes the following members: +>> +>> -=20 +>> =20 +>> Andrew Poelstra (Chair) - Blockstream +>> -=20 +>> =20 +>> Victor Kolobov (Secretary General) - StarkWare +>> -=20 +>> =20 +>> Avihu Levy - StarkWare +>> -=20 +>> =20 +>> Clara Shinkleman - Chaincode +>> -=20 +>> =20 +>> Ethan Heilman - BastionZero +>> -=20 +>> =20 +>> Louis Guthman - StarkWare +>> -=20 +>> =20 +>> Olaoluwa Osuntokun - Lightning Labs +>> -=20 +>> =20 +>> Robin Linus - ZeroSync +>> -=20 +>> =20 +>> Tadge Dryja=20 +>> =20 +>> The bounty is intended to gather well-reasoned arguments from the=20 +>> community, either supporting or opposing the activation of OP_CAT. Topic= +s=20 +>> of interest include but are not limited to: the security implications of= +=20 +>> OP_CAT activation on Bitcoin, OP_CAT-based computing and locking script= +=20 +>> logic on Bitcoin, applications and protocols utilizing OP_CAT on Bitcoin= +,=20 +>> and general research related to OP_CAT and its impact.=20 +>> +>> Please apply here <https://starkware.co/submission-proposals/>! +>> +> + +--=20 +You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= +Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. +To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= +mail to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. +To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= +bitcoindev/adbc4f2a-f9ba-48e5-85f0-bf7d548a46d0n%40googlegroups.com. + +------=_Part_281513_531772300.1725323706122 +Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +Hi all,<br /><br />> While I welcome the effort, its worth pointing out = +that bounties like this have a very long history<br />> of generating no= + interesting results because people who might otherwise generate interestin= +g results<br />> are rarely motivated by bounties.<br /><br />From my ex= +perience, I both agree and disagree with that viewpoint.<br /><br />Since t= +aproot activation in 2021, I think that one of the main reason there has be= +en a complete stale<br />in all consensus discussions related to soft-fork = +changes about covenants or contracting primitives<br />extending bitcoin sc= +ript is the lack of following some trial-and-error design & development= + process.<br />In the similar fashion and with the same level of rigors as = +we have seen with schnorr / taproot changes<br />themselves, where the idea= + of a merkle tree to commit to a set of scripts is as old as 2013 [0].<br /= +><br />Let's recall briefly some steps of taproot design & development = +process, as it did happen.<br /><br />With taproot, there has been for year= +s a competing debate of technical ideas between the templated approach<br /= +>(what is today bip341 / bip340) and the approach allowing more flexibility= + for the application / protocol<br />designer (bip144 or the bip116 / bip11= +7 combination). Following this debate of idea, there was a bip proposal<br = +/>to enshrine the taproot idea in a concrete technical idea in May 2019 [1]= + (Though was the coalescing of merkle<br />ideas in a single proposal done = +in a public, open and fair process ? I believe there were complaints from M= +aaku<br />that is was done in a more or less close-fashion at CoreDev NYC i= +n March 2018, of which a transcript is here [2]<br />Was this discussed mor= +e at the CoreDev one in Tokyo 2018 ?).<div><br /></div><div>Following the d= +ebate between technical ideas aiming to bring the same kind of mechanism at= + the consensus-level<br />in bitcoin, there was an open review process on I= +RC at the autumn of 2019, where all attendees were able to<br />ask technic= +al questions to the taproot bip proposal authors [3]. In parallel, there wa= +s a serie of industry<br />workshops made by Bitcoin Optech to present what= + the consensus changes would allow to build or improve in<br />the ecosyste= +m in multiple geographical locations [4].<br /><br />Following those meetin= +gs, there was an implementation pull request open in one of the full-node c= +lient in<br />the early year of 2020 [5], PR which was merged after an exte= +nsive code review cycle at the end of the year<br />of 2020 [6]. Subsequent= + open technical discussions happened on the mailing list early in 2021 to p= +ropose an<br />in-depth technical analysis of some claimed short-coming of = +taproot [7].<br /><br />That's a rough summary of the design & developm= +ent process followed for Taproot.</div><div><br /></div><div>Concerning wha= +t did happen following Taproot activation at the end of 2021, there has bee= +n multiple<br />initiatives to improve the bitcoin script system, most nota= +bly by Jeremy with CTV early in 2021 [8].<br />This proposal was the culmin= +ation of years of R&D by Jeremy, as if my memory is correct he did some= +<br />workshops about CTV and covenant along the years e.g at one of the Mi= +ami conference.<br /><br />While this proposal didn't gather enough signali= +ng for an activation, some experienced protocol devs have<br />drawn lesson= +s about this design, development and activation attempt. During the mid-sum= +mer I launched a<br />serie of IRC meetings for covenant devs on an open an= +d public channel [9], which was more or less regularly<br />attended by a l= +ot of folks. The goal of organizing regular open online meetings was to pro= +gressively find<br />where covenants devs converge (and where they actually= + diverge) about their bitcoin technical ideas.<br /><br />In another line o= +f fashion, there was the bitcoin-inquisition fork (yes the naming is from t= +he Monty Python)<br />by AJ [10] with the objectives to propose and impleme= +nt an idea and demonstrate it's technically or economically<br />worthwile.= + The bitcoin contracting primitives WG has been more or less discontinued b= +y myself (maintainers welcome!),<br />and I don't think the bitcoin-inquisi= +tion fork has been that active (we run out of expert eyes to review sophist= +icated<br />consensus changes...).</div><div><br /></div><div>So I think I = +agree with the viewpoint that indeed skilled people who can come with inter= +esting results are<br />rarely motivated by bounties. However this viewpoin= +t is missing some other side of the picture, namely having<br />a communica= +tion space in the bitcoin ecosystem, where novel ideas can be expressed in = +an open and public fashion,<br />instead of seeing a communication space lo= +cked-down by some bitcoin FOSS veterans (as they fear for the sustainabilit= +y<br />of their ivory tower jobs like the usual bureaucract at your local r= +egulatory body who has never got a job in real life,<br />wasn't one of Jer= +emy's critic about the consensus design process ? [11]).<br /><br />So if w= +e think that open and public communication space promoting high standards o= +f scientific and engineering discussions<br />is one of the key element, I = +can only invite that bounties be more consumed to nurture open and public p= +rocess like IRC meetings,<br />sorting out and archiving well the decade-lo= +ng of ideas about covenants and bitcoin script extensions or putting back o= +n foot<br />major open in-person conferences like Scaling Bitcoin, that wer= +e disrupted by the pandemie.</div><div><br /></div><div>(...I don't think C= +oreDev and other invitation-only dev meetings is an appropriate forum anymo= +re, as someone regularly<br />invited, in my opinion it becomes more a who = +you know on the social graph style of in-person meetings, that it is persis= +ting</div><div>as a meritocracy of ideas, written code and other technical = +contributions...)<br /><br />If we ignore the lessons of the past, I think = +we'll be condemned to repeat them like we have seen with the<br />blocksize= + war, where there was on one-side skilled devs cloister-walled on the bitco= +in core codebase, that<br />codebase full of bugs, and on the other side in= +dustry companies and application builders aiming to bring<br />some user tr= +affic to pay for the on-chain fees. I believe there was wrongs and rights o= +n each side.<br /><br />I think those considerations about working hard to = +re-insitute or improve the open and public communication<br />space in whic= +h a design & development conversation about consensus changes under hig= +h intellectual standards<br />can happen are valuable. Especially, as it is= + more and more likely that Bitcoin development process becomes<br />more ta= +rgeted by nation-states or other political actors such as Greenpeace. After= +all, it was a very long<br />time ago that Gavin as a bitcoin maintainer wa= +s invited to give highlights about Bitcoin to a very particular<br />servic= +e [12].</div><div><br /></div><div>On those last regards, I think it can be= + only helpful if future open conferences about Bitcoin scalability<br />and= + consensus changes are done in geopolitically neutral locations (e.g Singap= +or, Switzerland, some Caribbean<br />Islands, Dubai, Turkey, etc...).<br />= +<br />Best,<br />Antoine<br />ots hash: 34721270da9b1748b47396950b4418c7a43= +37a4b531fb75a2aeffc87f8b52a15</div><div><br /></div><div>[0] https://bitcoi= +ntalk.org/index.php?topic=3D255145.msg2757327#msg2757327<br />[1] https://l= +ists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2019-May/016914.html<br />[2= +] https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2018-May/015951.h= +tml<br />[3] https://github.com/ajtowns/taproot-review<br />[4] https://bit= +coinops.org/en/workshops/<br />[5] https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/= +17977<br />[6] https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19997<br />[7] https= +://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-March/018641.html<b= +r />[8] https://rubin.io/bitcoin/2021/11/28/advent-1/<br />[9] https://gith= +ub.com/ariard/bitcoin-contracting-primitives-wg<br />[10] https://lists.lin= +uxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2022-September/020921.html<br />[11]= + https://rubin.io/bitcoin/2021/11/28/advent-1/<br />[12] https://bitcointal= +k.org/?topic=3D6652.0<br /></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"aut= +o" class=3D"gmail_attr">Le jeudi 29 ao=C3=BBt 2024 =C3=A0 17:21:27 UTC+1, /= +dev /fd0 a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br/></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st= +yle=3D"margin: 0 0 0 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padd= +ing-left: 1ex;">Hi Victor,<div><br></div><div>I am not interested in submit= +ting any proposals based on the <a href=3D"https://starkware.co/submission-= +proposals/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" data-saferedirecturl=3D"http= +s://www.google.com/url?hl=3Dfr&q=3Dhttps://starkware.co/submission-prop= +osals/&source=3Dgmail&ust=3D1725409874909000&usg=3DAOvVaw1wI8zt= +N7FWY1gSE6H3VF3R">guidelines</a>, however below are some interesting observ= +ations and research related to OP_CAT:</div><div><br></div><div>Drivechain:= +=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://sha-gate-demo.netlify.app/" target=3D"_blank" rel= +=3D"nofollow" data-saferedirecturl=3D"https://www.google.com/url?hl=3Dfr&am= +p;q=3Dhttps://sha-gate-demo.netlify.app/&source=3Dgmail&ust=3D17254= +09874909000&usg=3DAOvVaw2D8LDBkObYZPFfRXzOVrSo">https://sha-gate-demo.n= +etlify.app/</a>=C2=A0</div><div>AOPP 2.0:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://groups.go= +ogle.com/g/bitcoindev/c/6SgD6_rmNAQ/m/Q3cTqaqEDQAJ" target=3D"_blank" rel= +=3D"nofollow" data-saferedirecturl=3D"https://www.google.com/url?hl=3Dfr&am= +p;q=3Dhttps://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/6SgD6_rmNAQ/m/Q3cTqaqEDQAJ&a= +mp;source=3Dgmail&ust=3D1725409874909000&usg=3DAOvVaw0fMXrzC3a6wzEH= +PprMM5sp">https://groups.google.com/g/bitcoindev/c/6SgD6_rmNAQ/m/Q3cTqaqEDQ= +AJ</a></div><div>AMM :=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://xcancel.com/super_testnet/st= +atus/1826674357860811036" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" data-saferedir= +ecturl=3D"https://www.google.com/url?hl=3Dfr&q=3Dhttps://xcancel.com/su= +per_testnet/status/1826674357860811036&source=3Dgmail&ust=3D1725409= +874909000&usg=3DAOvVaw1G4Et2nT5_LRzXo3kmlA1q">https://xcancel.com/super= +_testnet/status/1826674357860811036</a></div><div>On-chain DEX:=C2=A0<a hre= +f=3D"https://gitlab.com/GeneralProtocols/anyhedge/contracts/-/blame/develop= +ment/contracts/v0.12/artifact.json?ref_type=3Dheads#L93" target=3D"_blank" = +rel=3D"nofollow" data-saferedirecturl=3D"https://www.google.com/url?hl=3Dfr= +&q=3Dhttps://gitlab.com/GeneralProtocols/anyhedge/contracts/-/blame/dev= +elopment/contracts/v0.12/artifact.json?ref_type%3Dheads%23L93&source=3D= +gmail&ust=3D1725409874909000&usg=3DAOvVaw05wwqmIOusXwkYxLbXEazl">ht= +tps://gitlab.com/GeneralProtocols/anyhedge/contracts/-/blame/development/co= +ntracts/v0.12/artifact.json?ref_type=3Dheads#L93</a></div><div>Zero-conf:= +=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://gitlab.com/-/snippets/3735654" target=3D"_blank" r= +el=3D"nofollow" data-saferedirecturl=3D"https://www.google.com/url?hl=3Dfr&= +amp;q=3Dhttps://gitlab.com/-/snippets/3735654&source=3Dgmail&ust=3D= +1725409874909000&usg=3DAOvVaw2Q2HEw84w1Dg5iSExkIKQh">https://gitlab.com= +/-/snippets/3735654</a></div><div><br></div><div>/dev/fd0</div><div>floppy = +disk guy</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"gmail_a= +ttr">On Thursday, August 29, 2024 at 1:27:53=E2=80=AFPM UTC Victor Kolobov = +wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 0.8= +ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr" = +style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-si= +ze:small;line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"= +font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-col= +or:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;f= +ont-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Hey all,</span></p><= +p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans= +-serif;font-size:small;line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><= +span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);= +background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-= +asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><br></= +span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0= +,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant= +-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">= +StarkWare has announced a $1 million bounty for compelling arguments either= + in favor of or against the activation of OP_CAT. This bounty is overseen b= +y a committee which includes the following members:</span></p><ul style=3D"= +color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;= +margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-left:15px= +;list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb= +(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-varia= +nt-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline= +"><p dir=3D"ltr" role=3D"presentation" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top= +:12pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;background-color:tra= +nsparent;font-weight:700;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asia= +n:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Andrew Poe= +lstra (Chair)</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;background-color:transpar= +ent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant= +-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"> - Blockstream</span></p></li><= +li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-left:15px;list-style-type:disc;font-size:12p= +t;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparen= +t;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-a= +lternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><p dir=3D"ltr" role=3D"presentati= +on" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style= +=3D"font-size:12pt;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-varian= +t-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:nor= +mal;vertical-align:baseline">Victor Kolobov (Secretary General)</span><span= + style=3D"font-size:12pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:= +normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertic= +al-align:baseline"> - StarkWare</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"mar= +gin-left:15px;list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-se= +rif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:norm= +al;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-a= +lign:baseline"><p dir=3D"ltr" role=3D"presentation" style=3D"line-height:1.= +38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;backgrou= +nd-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-varia= +nt-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline= +">Avihu Levy</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;background-color:transpare= +nt;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-= +alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"> - StarkWare</span></p></li><li = +dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-left:15px;list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;f= +ont-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;f= +ont-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alte= +rnates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><p dir=3D"ltr" role=3D"presentation"= + style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D= +"font-size:12pt;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant-n= +umeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal= +;vertical-align:baseline">Clara Shinkleman</span><span style=3D"font-size:1= +2pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-e= +ast-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"> -= + Chaincode</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-left:15px;list-st= +yle-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);= +background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-= +asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><p dir= +=3D"ltr" role=3D"presentation" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;mar= +gin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;background-color:transparent;= +font-weight:700;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;= +font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Ethan Heilman</span= +><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-nu= +meric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;= +vertical-align:baseline"> - BastionZero</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" styl= +e=3D"margin-left:15px;list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial= +,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-nume= +ric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;ve= +rtical-align:baseline"><p dir=3D"ltr" role=3D"presentation" style=3D"line-h= +eight:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;= +background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant-numeric:normal;fo= +nt-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:= +baseline">Louis Guthman</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;background-colo= +r:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;fo= +nt-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"> - StarkWare</span></= +p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-left:15px;list-style-type:disc;font-= +size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:tr= +ansparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-v= +ariant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><p dir=3D"ltr" role=3D"pr= +esentation" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><sp= +an style=3D"font-size:12pt;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;fon= +t-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-altern= +ates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Olaoluwa Osuntokun</span><span style= +=3D"font-size:12pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal= +;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-ali= +gn:baseline"> - Lightning Labs</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"marg= +in-left:15px;list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-ser= +if;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:norma= +l;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-al= +ign:baseline"><p dir=3D"ltr" role=3D"presentation" style=3D"line-height:1.3= +8;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;backgroun= +d-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-varian= +t-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"= +>Robin Linus</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;background-color:transpare= +nt;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-= +alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"> - ZeroSync</span></p></li><li d= +ir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-left:15px;list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;fo= +nt-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;fo= +nt-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alter= +nates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><p dir=3D"ltr" role=3D"presentation" = +style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D= +"font-size:12pt;background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant-n= +umeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal= +;vertical-align:baseline">Tadge Dryja</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;b= +ackground-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-a= +sian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">=C2=A0<= +/span></p></li></ul><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family= +:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;line-height:1.38;margin-top:12p= +t;margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-= +serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:no= +rmal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical= +-align:baseline">The bounty is intended to gather well-reasoned arguments f= +rom the community, either supporting or opposing the activation of OP_CAT. = +Topics of interest include but are not limited to: the security implication= +s of OP_CAT activation on Bitcoin, OP_CAT-based computing and locking scrip= +t logic on Bitcoin, applications and protocols utilizing OP_CAT on Bitcoin,= + and general research related to OP_CAT and its impact.=C2=A0</span></p><br= + style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-s= +ize:small"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,He= +lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-= +bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;col= +or:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font= +-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:ba= +seline">Please apply=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"https://starkware.co/submission= +-proposals/" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204)" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bla= +nk" data-saferedirecturl=3D"https://www.google.com/url?hl=3Dfr&q=3Dhttp= +s://starkware.co/submission-proposals/&source=3Dgmail&ust=3D1725409= +874909000&usg=3DAOvVaw1wI8ztN7FWY1gSE6H3VF3R"><span style=3D"font-size:= +12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant= +-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:norm= +al;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline">here</span></a><= +span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);= +background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-= +asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">!</spa= +n></p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div> + +<p></p> + +-- <br /> +You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &= +quot;Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group.<br /> +To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= +mail to <a href=3D"mailto:bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com">bitcoind= +ev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a>.<br /> +To view this discussion on the web visit <a href=3D"https://groups.google.c= +om/d/msgid/bitcoindev/adbc4f2a-f9ba-48e5-85f0-bf7d548a46d0n%40googlegroups.= +com?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dfooter">https://groups.google.com/d/msg= +id/bitcoindev/adbc4f2a-f9ba-48e5-85f0-bf7d548a46d0n%40googlegroups.com</a>.= +<br /> + +------=_Part_281513_531772300.1725323706122-- + +------=_Part_281512_2040249165.1725323706122-- + |