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| author | Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> | 2022-10-14 11:04:56 -0400 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2022-10-14 15:10:49 +0000 |
| commit | d9641e92b21eb2d50642f8813ceace9ea8bb3888 (patch) | |
| tree | 2446a91b45449b13c8d62db75614914068dd2cf4 | |
| parent | 23c0ee1a1a76c2ad8467af6613537528076df9be (diff) | |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Opt-in full-RBF] Zero-conf apps in immediate danger
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charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 12:03:21PM +0200, John Carvalho via bitcoin-dev wro= +te: +> In support of Dario's concern, I feel like there is a degree of gaslighti= +ng +> happening with the advancement of RBF somehow being okay, while merchants +> wanting to manage their own 0conf risk better being not okay. + +The way merchants try to manage 0conf risk is quite harmful to Bitcoin. +Connecting to large numbers of nodes to try to risk-manage propagation _is_= + an +attack, albeit a mild one. Everyone doing that is very harmful; only a few +merchants being able to do it is very unfair/centralized. + +=2E..and of course, in the past this has lead to merchants trying to make d= +eals +with miners directly, even going as far as to suggest reorging out +double-spends. I don't need to explain why that is obviously extremely harm= +ful. + +--=20 +https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org + +--uzWu6mFOXkyC6rM2 +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- + +iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE0RcYcKRzsEwFZ3N5Lly11TVRLzcFAmNJepIACgkQLly11TVR +LzcUsw/+J0RjfX6NlTDp4zLpaQiCA54/Evl1Iw/gyVAAjmV6+U9wymMp6MmWIStQ +Us5h1DxxVnvxeZo/RHytLldPgqXJOtfQsCGsTeCqPh8m2k3oTZsnNhynjwFUxJ/1 +Osg638cJvu1SfxWjTXfIU3PNDT1Ab4+q3jvqgAPZs+RcFjEylZm2zNBl6oxRqceQ +akRrZh2kjJIddiSl5t1vd75GUku9Gj9jLfuY2w07v0M9kLfwa1b/0zYjaZzkIW0s +0SlTynFoO52FJ8R+8ZGKjOC2JhDYzN4c22SkSOReUCxrlkj8GrqgKXnTddIkunR0 +1KDSNsvDQgHEXASuRWTR7OxA+uEpt8w3ABAXtgF35aY8dkOT4hRn5GOmKL0EyJ1I +roPdTRudua35mwV7XTM9CHKYd0dnk/qxX1kP+FOnkGC/SwUo8GIJSULixyDCbfHh +E2SzTwF1Wrhh0HHpBW2hLjLDZiN54EdA7FVY/dMvWpiwZdO+HlF0NLV8O8j8QYJ+ +Wg9qTieIiL9bwgKvlW9mtIZRijYXWSWql4gGXhDMncjQoBw2cv5iVzt5cg+WRDsF +VsNlhLue5nqIrF/4HjttPfNUC6sLPM0JZaJ/JgIPficD5VmsOVuw1axM0cFFz3ot +aCtwO9tY/66jgH2r8aPqB4fYylvII/EDSUY8Qbo2c3X49k1UM9E= +=nQ8p +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--uzWu6mFOXkyC6rM2-- + |