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| author | Milly Bitcoin <milly@bitcoins.info> | 2015-09-01 18:42:39 -0400 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2015-09-01 22:42:46 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Open Block Chain Licence, BIP[xxxx] Draft
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diff --git a/fd/e7b9cdb1ad92a7e22ab1c6cb8b3c4ff3d59b96 b/fd/e7b9cdb1ad92a7e22ab1c6cb8b3c4ff3d59b96 new file mode 100644 index 000000000..08e39aefd --- /dev/null +++ b/fd/e7b9cdb1ad92a7e22ab1c6cb8b3c4ff3d59b96 @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +Return-Path: <milly@bitcoins.info> +Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org + [172.17.192.35]) + by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 491C1EE8 + for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; + Tue, 1 Sep 2015 22:42:46 +0000 (UTC) +X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 +Received: from mail.help.org (mail.help.org [70.90.2.18]) + by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB200E0 + for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; + Tue, 1 Sep 2015 22:42:45 +0000 (UTC) +Received: from [10.1.10.25] (B [10.1.10.25]) by mail.help.org with ESMTPA + ; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 18:42:36 -0400 +To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +References: <CADr=VrRT2tdN0jjkZ7HjjeyqonrHG=j+uh8m1L2nhew7c1gnng@mail.gmail.com> + <CADJgMztScEsDEy277Jksy2RckbpzeRw6RbQzyVrdkjJSS=hHPA@mail.gmail.com> + <CADr=VrQ42Gqv7fUFVpaburw0=08SNXb0TUCBWd3arREbpdfCkA@mail.gmail.com> + <55E61A64.2030609@bitcoins.info> + <CADr=VrQeQ2=Htcen-oJrJWWhf5aQ8-cjYK28ic1UWNFWMf2nDQ@mail.gmail.com> +From: Milly Bitcoin <milly@bitcoins.info> +Message-ID: <55E629DF.3030407@bitcoins.info> +Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 18:42:39 -0400 +User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 + Thunderbird/38.2.0 +MIME-Version: 1.0 +In-Reply-To: <CADr=VrQeQ2=Htcen-oJrJWWhf5aQ8-cjYK28ic1UWNFWMf2nDQ@mail.gmail.com> +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.3.1 +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on + smtp1.linux-foundation.org +Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Open Block Chain Licence, BIP[xxxx] Draft +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 +Precedence: list +List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 22:42:46 -0000 + +> The general points and questions you have raised are covered in the +> draft BIP: + +No, the BIP makes some weird statements that don't really make sense. + +Number one rule here: To put a license on something you have to own it +in the first place. + +Let's say for the sake of argument that Miners own the copyright on a +block they find (as pointed out something like does not normally get +copyright protection but let's just pretend). Then the miner can charge +a fee for any public block explorer that wants to display the block at +their web site. They could also try to collect a fee from anyone who +distributes it (like Bitcoin users using p2p to distribute the +blockchain). A copyright is about protecting revenue. Is there some +other purpose of putting a license on intellectual property? + +Also, it is not up to you, or anyone else, to come up with the form of a +license to control data owned by someone else. How can you force miners + or users to use any specific license that you come up with? + +There are a number of other weird statements that really don't make any +kind of sense: + +"In the USA, for example, these attributes confer legal protections for +databases which have been ruled upon by the courts." I have no idea +what this means or what court cases you are referring to. + +"The Bitcoin Core Miners" is not an identifiable entity and cannot own +intellectual property rights. What is the purpose of you putting a +notice that some unidentifiable entity has some sort of rights over the +blockchain data? You are not that entity and neither are the +developers. If there are rights it is up to miners to come up with +their license. + +"[users] own the rights to their individual transactions through +cryptograph security." I have no idea what this means. It is certainly +not intellectual property rights of anything I am familiar with. Once +again, if the users do have intellectual rights then someone else cannot +dictate the terms of the license. They could charge a fee for miners +publishing their transaction data. + +Russ + + + |