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author | Drak <drak@zikula.org> | 2013-11-14 22:27:53 +0000 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2013-11-14 22:28:21 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] moving the default display to mbtc
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[URIs: doubleclick.net] + -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for + sender-domain + -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record + 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message +X-Headers-End: 1Vh5Od-0000si-QM +Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> +Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] moving the default display to mbtc +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 +Precedence: list +List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, + <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, + <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 22:28:21 -0000 + +--f46d044402a2ebb9d104eb2a9802 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 + +Given the meteoric growth many are now saying we should just switch +straight to Satoshi (uBTC) because it looks like we will be seeing BTC +valued in the thousands pretty soon. Small decimal numbers are certainly +not very attractive to the masses. There's no point switching to mBTC only +to have to switch to uBTC later - especially when that later could be a lot +sooner. + +Unless something is recommended/done by the bitcoin core developers I doubt +much will change at bitcoin user/consumer level. + +Drak + + +On 14 November 2013 11:45, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote: + +> Rationale +> ======= +> +> Given the recent rise in value there seems to be anecdotal evidence that 1 +> bitcoin being so high is putting off a lot of normal buyers, because they +> feel that putting down $400+ and only getting "1 coin", or having to buy in +> multiples of 1 whole coin, is too much.. only after it being explained that +> they can buy fractional amounts to they regain interest, apparently +> happening increasingly. +> +> +> Straw Poll +> ======== +> +> 6 months ago there was a straw poll on this +> +> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=220322.0 +> +> Roughly 2/3 of respondents favoured switching +> +> A further 20% said to switch after it hits 1000 +> +> Satoshi's comments: +> ================ +> +> Eventually at most only 21 million coins for 6.8 billion people in the +> world if it really gets huge. +> +> But don't worry, there are another 6 decimal places that aren't shown, for +> a total of 8 decimal places internally. It shows 1.00 but internally it's +> 1.00000000. If there's massive deflation in the future, the software could +> show more decimal places. +> +> If it gets tiresome working with small numbers, we could change where the +> display shows the decimal point. Same amount of money, just different +> convention for where the ","'s and "."'s go. e.g. moving the decimal place +> 3 places would mean if you had 1.00000 before, now it shows it as 1,000.00. +> +> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=44.msg267#msg267 +> +> +> Would now be a good time to start thinking about changing the default +> display in the software. Perhaps initially it could be a dropdown display +> option, then at some point mbtc becomes the default? +> +> +> +> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ +> DreamFactory - Open Source REST & JSON Services for HTML5 & Native Apps +> OAuth, Users, Roles, SQL, NoSQL, BLOB Storage and External API Access +> Free app hosting. Or install the open source package on any LAMP server. +> Sign up and see examples for AngularJS, jQuery, Sencha Touch and Native! +> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63469471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk +> _______________________________________________ +> Bitcoin-development mailing list +> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net +> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development +> +> + +--f46d044402a2ebb9d104eb2a9802 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +<div dir=3D"ltr">Given the meteoric growth many are now saying we should ju= +st switch straight to Satoshi (uBTC) because it looks like we will be seein= +g BTC valued in the thousands pretty soon. Small decimal numbers are certai= +nly not very attractive to the masses. There's no point switching to mB= +TC only to have to switch to uBTC later - especially when that later could = +be a lot sooner.<div> + + + +<br></div><div>Unless something is recommended/done by the bitcoin core dev= +elopers I doubt much will change at bitcoin user/consumer level.<br><div> +<br></div><div>Drak<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class= +=3D"gmail_quote">On 14 November 2013 11:45, Melvin Carvalho <span dir=3D"lt= +r"><<a href=3D"mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">melvin= +carvalho@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> + + + + +<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= +x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>Rationa= +le<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br></div><div><br>Given the recent rise in valu= +e there seems to be anecdotal evidence that 1 bitcoin being so high is putt= +ing off a lot of normal buyers, because they feel that putting down $400+ a= +nd only getting "1 coin", or having to buy in multiples of 1 whol= +e coin, is too much.. only after it being explained that they can buy fract= +ional amounts to they regain interest, apparently happening increasingly.<b= +r> + + + + + +<br><br></div><div>Straw Poll<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br></div><div><br= +></div>6 months ago there was a straw poll on this<br><br><a href=3D"https:= +//bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D220322.0" target=3D"_blank">https://bit= +cointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D220322.0</a><br> + + + + + +<br></div>Roughly 2/3 of respondents favoured switching<br><br></div>A furt= +her 20% said to switch after it hits 1000<br><br></div>Satoshi's commen= +ts:<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>Eventually a= +t most only 21 million coins for 6.8 billion people in the world if it real= +ly gets huge.<br> + + + + + +<br>But don't worry, there are another 6 decimal places that aren't= + shown, for a total of 8 decimal places internally.=C2=A0 It shows 1.00 but= + internally it's 1.00000000.=C2=A0 If there's massive deflation in = +the future, the software could show more decimal places.<br> + + + + + +<br>If it gets tiresome working with small numbers, we could change where t= +he display shows the decimal point.=C2=A0 Same amount of money, just differ= +ent convention for where the ","'s and "."'s go= +.=C2=A0 e.g. moving the decimal place 3 places would mean if you had 1.0000= +0 before, now it shows it as 1,000.00.<br> + + + + + +<br><a href=3D"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D44.msg267#msg267" = +target=3D"_blank">https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D44.msg267#msg26= +7</a><br><div><br><br></div><div>Would now be a good time to start thinking= + about changing the default display in the software.=C2=A0 Perhaps initiall= +y it could be a dropdown display option, then at some point mbtc becomes th= +e default?<br> + + + + + +</div><div><br></div></div> +<br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------= +-------<br> +DreamFactory - Open Source REST & JSON Services for HTML5 & Native = +Apps<br> +OAuth, Users, Roles, SQL, NoSQL, BLOB Storage and External API Access<br> +Free app hosting. 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