diff options
author | Jorge Timón <jtimon@jtimon.cc> | 2015-08-19 11:47:22 +0200 |
---|---|---|
committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2015-08-19 09:47:25 +0000 |
commit | c496bd3cd128c339358b5278dd65fbd61a3f1885 (patch) | |
tree | 62ff182aeab7e372e6530ed482bf98c5bb64ba38 | |
parent | aeb52dcfb06a528e8bd5f1e86e7f584135b55ab0 (diff) | |
download | pi-bitcoindev-c496bd3cd128c339358b5278dd65fbd61a3f1885.tar.gz pi-bitcoindev-c496bd3cd128c339358b5278dd65fbd61a3f1885.zip |
Re: [bitcoin-dev] Annoucing Not-BitcoinXT
-rw-r--r-- | 40/eef5155ec9efb60872ea584bdada3e66e8044c | 96 |
1 files changed, 96 insertions, 0 deletions
diff --git a/40/eef5155ec9efb60872ea584bdada3e66e8044c b/40/eef5155ec9efb60872ea584bdada3e66e8044c new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5a61caaa4 --- /dev/null +++ b/40/eef5155ec9efb60872ea584bdada3e66e8044c @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +Return-Path: <jtimon@jtimon.cc> +Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org + [172.17.192.35]) + by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60F1225A + for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; + Wed, 19 Aug 2015 09:47:25 +0000 (UTC) +X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 +Received: from mail-la0-f49.google.com (mail-la0-f49.google.com + [209.85.215.49]) + by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82EE2F2 + for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; + Wed, 19 Aug 2015 09:47:24 +0000 (UTC) +Received: by lagz9 with SMTP id z9so116030707lag.3 + for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; + Wed, 19 Aug 2015 02:47:23 -0700 (PDT) +X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; + d=1e100.net; s=20130820; + h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date + :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; + bh=NqvshBxTiNpX/zoiVcmFJ7gOpsXEl7/47SBuFSTRqro=; + b=DG4Kq9y8FNiqFKEVULXhqW3IxYcymEAdWDTAtduLGMEhN13c/lp2VCo3xPQpBoa0aV + mr4aGyEgLXcw9cQgbA3W5WcmsS6BmPzrfxJu3dZi1u/hTGeoM5ez9hFiQuT6Vv/MZOht + pPNjihJRWAlNekPu+AdU8uevWkNseYISXtF9UN1Xe0CWJ6eLAFiCQFjxqNP5dbyqhCmT + B43Q1av+tZTW/UxJ3uyfvaeMxyRxhvdbTdihUNQVsoLZkVy6tEiYhX28crHTLOpK8Lmo + jE7yOPYkS5e+X0jP6R0mLsGjEpdxBqaheQ5/tqlTTbsclEjpiuGNoM/Kofq9rFFIlKff + kz9A== +X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnpmiXtBkAwger80IpsXbuW7piI6qDf/BSzeMyWaN/EjfG2cHV6oWHn1S/Js47tjs0chkSU +MIME-Version: 1.0 +X-Received: by 10.153.7.66 with SMTP id da2mr10239399lad.117.1439977643015; + Wed, 19 Aug 2015 02:47:23 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.25.15.22 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 02:47:22 -0700 (PDT) +In-Reply-To: <20150818094612.2344943128@smtp.hushmail.com> +References: <20150817100918.BD1F343128@smtp.hushmail.com> + <1439815244.89850.YahooMailBasic@web173102.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> + <20150817133438.DDD4243128@smtp.hushmail.com> + <CE3B7411-2863-4D6B-85B0-4F28D4D7F391@gmail.com> + <20150818094612.2344943128@smtp.hushmail.com> +Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:47:22 +0200 +Message-ID: <CABm2gDp1h_iQKkyS5MUE0R85_DJcCZBKwop1731CbLR-AGOX1A@mail.gmail.com> +From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9yZ2UgVGltw7Nu?= <jtimon@jtimon.cc> +To: NxtChg <nxtchg@hush.com> +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW + autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on + smtp1.linux-foundation.org +Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Annoucing Not-BitcoinXT +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 +Precedence: list +List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 09:47:25 -0000 + +On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:46 AM, NxtChg via bitcoin-dev +<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: +> Eric, +> +>>FWIW... +> +> These are all good points and I agree with most of them. Yes, the block size debate is a lucky historical accident, which makes it easier for XT to pull off the split, but that's not the point. +> +> The point is, the split _must_ happen because the centralized governance of Bitcoin became a bigger problem than the risks of a fork or larger blocks. +> +> You cannot govern a decentralized currency with a centralized entity. + +Nobody has complained about Bitcoin-XT (nor libbitcoin, nor libcoin, +nor against any other of the multiple alternative implementations of +bitcoin). +Please, understand that people are worried about the schism hardfork, +not about the software fork (which happened long ago when some of +Hearn's changes were reverted due to security concerns). If Bitcoin-XT +didn't had a schism hardfork, nobody would be calling it "an altcoin". +For consensus rules we use "the implementation is the specification" +as a principle for multiple reasons. By separating libconsensus (a +work in progress [far less progress than I would like]) we remove +Bitcoin Core's privileged position: Bitcoin Core wouldn't be "the +specification of the consensus rules" anymore, just a reference +implementation that is not "consensus-safer" compared to alternative +implementations (since they can use libconsensus directly [or a +software fork of it in the case of a reasonable schism hardfork]). + +> That's why we shouldn't fear hard forks - they are the new reality, and if we cannot set up a reliable process for them to happen then there _is_ no decentralized Bitcoin and we all might as well just give up and go home. + +We have many reasons to fear schism hardforks ( +https://github.com/jtimon/bips/blob/bip-forks/bip-0099.mediawiki#Schism1_hardforks +), even though they may be unavoidable at some point (ie for an +ASIC-reset hardfork). + |