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| author | Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com> | 2015-07-23 12:51:29 -0700 |
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| committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2015-07-23 19:51:33 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core and hard forks
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+ protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 +X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5b6 +From: Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <CABsx9T2wF+VfvPDRmyj38rg=6YogZKtg+JCSjtg1Mn7SSJ=LzA@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:51:29 -0700 +Message-Id: <CFD51C0D-3233-4509-9B1A-74D22972B550@gmail.com> +References: <CAPg+sBgs-ouEMu=LOVCmOyCGwfM1Ygxooz0shyvAuHDGGZYfJw@mail.gmail.com> + <CAPg+sBgugLSVEwDLXhgey86_rM2fTjGWXFuXsiZioJKCZiHiNg@mail.gmail.com> + <CADm_WcbnQQGZoQ92twfUvbzqGwu__xLn+BYOkHPZY_YT1pFrbA@mail.gmail.com> + <CAPWm=eW8RgrG1CMEAMN4GeiMjZecFvNtZB_Y4rZNeofWSD0=Wg@mail.gmail.com> + <CADm_WcYCUHs9Qe_T6WJOCUSK6stXYD8v6z5JcGHfRMURoOSFTA@mail.gmail.com> + <CABm2gDq3JyZx0QCRDbcNSLSOBKdpi4h_7VN1XL8N42U38+eBAA@mail.gmail.com> + <55B113AF.40500@thinlink.com> + <CABsx9T1MTc-GmuQyFN1vaFK=CDWV_L214Pi9nR6jLMouQQD0fw@mail.gmail.com> + <C5A70F53-4779-457A-A06A-686877706F89@gmail.com> + <CADL_X_exckh5T2BfzPEp26fPR3TD69QarwroDEdS_9wtnKbf+g@mail.gmail.com> + <6F436293-9E2B-461C-B105-FC4CF9EBFC69@gmail.com> + <CABsx9T2wF+VfvPDRmyj38rg=6YogZKtg+JCSjtg1Mn7SSJ=LzA@mail.gmail.com> +To: Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com> +X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, + DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW + autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on + smtp1.linux-foundation.org +Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core and hard forks +X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 +Precedence: list +List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> +List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> +List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, + <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> +X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 19:51:34 -0000 + + +--Apple-Mail=_22ED1DBB-BF3B-42FA-9706-75F01C807240 +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="Apple-Mail=_CE51C175-6F97-4483-AD5A-DDFDA573E955" + + +--Apple-Mail=_CE51C175-6F97-4483-AD5A-DDFDA573E955 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset=utf-8 + + +> On Jul 23, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com> = +wrote: +>=20 +> There are lots of things we can do to decrease costs, and a lot of = +things have ALREADY been done (e.g. running a pruned full node). + +I also wanted to point out I fully agree with you that there are still = +many optimizations we could do to reduce costs, and think many of these = +things are certainly worth doing. However, there=E2=80=99s only so much = +we can do in this regard. Sooner or later we still run up against = +theoretical limitations. These optimizations can reduce costs by some = +factor=E2=80=A6but they are highly unlikely to overcome the =CE=A9(n) = +validation complexity barring some major algorithmic breakthrough (and = +perhaps allowing for nondeterminism, perhaps accepting a negligible but = +finite error probability). + +--Apple-Mail=_CE51C175-6F97-4483-AD5A-DDFDA573E955 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Type: text/html; + charset=utf-8 + +<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = +charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = +-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" = +class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = +class=3D"">On Jul 23, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Gavin Andresen <<a = +href=3D"mailto:gavinandresen@gmail.com" = +class=3D"">gavinandresen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br = +class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span = +style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = +font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = +line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = +text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: = +0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline = +!important;" class=3D"">There are lots of things we can do to decrease = +costs, and a lot of things have ALREADY been done (e.g. running a pruned = +full node).</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""><div = +class=3D"">I also wanted to point out I fully agree with you that there = +are still many optimizations we could do to reduce costs, and think many = +of these things are certainly worth doing. However, there=E2=80=99s only = +so much we can do in this regard. Sooner or later we still run up = +against theoretical limitations. These optimizations can reduce costs by = +some factor=E2=80=A6but they are highly unlikely to overcome the =CE=A9(n)= + validation complexity barring some major algorithmic breakthrough (and = +perhaps allowing for nondeterminism, perhaps accepting a negligible but = +finite error probability).</div></body></html>= + +--Apple-Mail=_CE51C175-6F97-4483-AD5A-DDFDA573E955-- + +--Apple-Mail=_22ED1DBB-BF3B-42FA-9706-75F01C807240 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: attachment; + filename=signature.asc +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; + name=signature.asc +Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org + +iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVsUXBAAoJEJNAI64YFENUs7kQAIiZh+MNMpO2844JYcBVgwS3 +DRXam0eoH6HI7AOZaNA1Oxp71brtAmu+j4fHGFO2al4CFIJfhEL4PAMTROotXMnK +vqeTaKu9VosjWA9JIw9jUresM4SGx6GMvx5f7okQK/+2y1ZCiMGxx7g3LOMCU+l1 +evFRnthHqdz+VrnSs7J6nUk3/BwB69y9xuIIWw5PYaAXY4WRbiyTyEClIsqHmdNG +bNMWUd9uAWK4dQodqddCaT8/Cj85on1X0XktmN4ApWrsjcYJyPebZngbyy+qGwqw +9FDwyzW3cw2/AChEEZbGEkAceafqWUSK+feehpYV3sPwJiAHHNLVd/RFd9Npc4Sa +0QM3qmagub39V5NhL7vm3iqzvo3if9dIl/xpYtmWjZr+qr81R/cDgkA8Qj6po9cK +Dv7Az8+afqhSr5/AKdzVZ3glZS9zz5VjkMibafSp0lnlFP2UYo//vbhrRr66hBMA +a+OddykgrZ2+jgazT9PrkaDrc1Vszd/oqJZI7HKw5IrnTpAiOkqPRhBgM/ZJ+9eD +ZTuGyyMOziBf9W1P/1FHYY1onJf40qvsOjsPIPkjtAr2hWXb+hGKvAb/OTvcyVjP +fgM/36DImbneUjzX7nruxZGEMTZmwgnJUmDS4zMe4fCv4TidkuSk/RfEBvYdRfiQ +z36dhOGm0zPcmijN/R9z +=vXO1 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--Apple-Mail=_22ED1DBB-BF3B-42FA-9706-75F01C807240-- + |