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author | Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> | 2012-09-25 13:52:10 -0400 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Large backlog of transactions building up?
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Can the chain enforce this number? +> Why can't clients delete all those transactions right now? + +This is discussion about transactions which are not in the chain yet. + +> On 9/23/12, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> wrote: +>> There are bursts of weird transactions (e.g. someone was flooding zero +>> value txn a few weeks ago; before that there were some enormous series +>> of double-spend induced orphans), and other sustained loads that quite +>> a few miners are intentionally excluding. +> +> Why clients store transactions that don't obey the current rules of +> the chain at all? + +The double spending transaction is not stored=E2=80=94 which is, in fact, t= +he +problem which creates these huge chain. When a transaction depending +on the doublespend is received we do not know its parent (because we +dropped it because it was a rule violation) so we keep it around as an +orphan hoping its parent arrives. + +The software could maintain a cache of rejected txids to consult for +orphan txn's parents, but it would need to be dropped any time there +is a reorg so I don't know how useful it would be. + + |