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author | Thomas Zander <thomas@thomaszander.se> | 2015-08-12 18:41:36 +0200 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2015-08-12 16:41:39 +0000 |
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] A summary list of all concerns related to rising the block size
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